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1/1: How do 'XP on Mac' solutions (Boot Camp and Parallels) affect your Intel-based Mac purchase plans?
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next purchase will be a Mac, not a PC
I have a current iMac G5/2.1GHz and an older HP PC, but when it comes time to replace the PC, I will buy an Intel Mac, not another PC.
When to get an Intel Mac
I'm still going to buy one whenever my iBook craps out on me, or the summer of '07, whichever comes first. Same as when they came out, same as when I decided on that course in October, when my iBook all but crapped out.
indirect impact
I didn't buy my MacBook Pro any sooner, but I did buy it with an eye to replacing a fairly late-model ThinkPad I'm resenting carrying around for the occasional Windows build/test of our products.
School and PCs
We use PCs at school and mine is really getting too slow (AMD K6 500). It's ok for testing pages in IE, but nothing else. On top of that the G4 (Dual 800 Quicksilver) is not as killer of a machine as it was back then. I would have probably upgraded the PC first out of school priority. But now, I can get the best of both world :D
I don't do Windows at home.
I have neither the desire nor the need to ever run any version of Windows at home on my Mac so my choice was "no impact".
Missing my poll option
I was expecting a poll option for changing my PC purchasing plans. XP on Mac doesn't impact my Mac purchasing, already have Macintel. It DOES impact my future Windows PC plans. I will no longer need to purchase a windows PC for the few times I need one.
What's in a name?
We used to say Windows PC or Intel PC for a Microsoft OS based PC Well, that wasn't very clear of you, was it? You're forgetting Linux-based Intel PCs and FreeBSD-based Intel PCs and even Solaris Intel PCs! We, over in my neighborhood, used to say "Wintel" for Windows-based Intel PCs, and "Lintel" for Linux-based Intel PCs, so these are, it would seem "Mintel PCs"! ---
Not very soon, but sooner
When ibooks and leopard come out I'll have good excuse to get rid of my dell.
Wrong question
I have an Intel Mac Mini, but prob won't ever use it for running Windows (although I am keen to do some evaluation of Solaris x86 in Parallels).
wrong question!
The question should have been 'how will the XP on Mac solutions impact your PC purchase plans?' - in my case, I was going to buy a PC for home for the kids to use (We've 3 Macs at home, and countless at work), seeing as the games all their friends play are Windows-based (and their school is Windows-based). But now I don't have to do that. And I can confirm that Boot Camp works as advertised... unlike Windows!
Intel Mac purchasing plans
I had already purchased a MacBook Pro before either the XP Hack, BootCamp or Parallels was announced. I had anticipated being able to run Windows eventually at native or near-native speed. I installed BootCamp the first day, and find it useful for the few programs that I need to run, although it is very inconvenient to have to reboot. I am waiting on Parallels to get USB support, as one of the things I need to be able to do under Windows is update device firmware for things like my Blackberry and GPS that don't have OS X ways to do so. Once USB is supported and perhaps some sort of shared drive mechanism, I think a virtualization solution makes the most sense.
Intel Mac purchasing plans
Polls that ask about your plans for purchasing Intel Macs keep forgetting to include the "I already have one (or more)" option.
Intel Mac purchasing plans
Ditto.
Intel Mac purchasing plans
I left it out on purpose; I was more interested in finding out about those who had not yet purchased! :)
Waiting for good virtualization
I've already got access to both Windows PC's and Macs, so being able to dual-boot is a non-issue for me. What I'm waiting for is a good virtualization solution that will allow a guest operating system to run at close to native speed and allow convenient access on my Mac to the few Windows-only apps I sometimes need, such as Visio. The fact that the Merom processor should be out later this year and provide a nice performance boost is another reason I'm waiting. Finally, and it's unrelated to the virtualization thing, it looks like new higher speed wireless technology is finally coming out, such as the new 802.11n. I'm hoping the next gen of Apple's machines will include it.
It just helps...
Anyone who works in a technical related field (engineering, telecom, etc) knows that its quite difficult to alleviate your exposure to Windows. At least now we can have a single computer to run that one crappy Windows program and OSX to run everything else that life demands!
No impact, but positive.
I checked no impact, because I'm still going to wait for a virtualization type solution (simultaneous booting). I "knew" they would come, so not sure no impact is the right answer. It's not sooner or later, because I assumed a year. I "need" simultaneous booting to run some GPS programs. The solution has to work better than Virtual PC, which is too fussy about USB (it may be the programs which usually aren't the most fully developed).
Only the beginning
I think Windows compatibility was one of the main reasons for Apple's switch to x86 CPUs. Bootcamp lets you use your Mac as a PC. Parallels/VMWare/Virtual PC let you run a virtual PC inside MacOS. WINE/Crossover let you run Windows applications without any Windows at all. Each succeeding technology is more Mac-like and less PC-like, and I think that most here will agree that the more Mac-like the better. Apple wants all types of solutions to be available so the user can choose which they need. They all make it so that a potential Mac purchaser does not have to be concerned about compatibility with the rest of the world.
A more interesting question...
How does Boot Camp/Parallels affect my PC buying plans?
XP on Mac, Yahoo!
As much as I hate winblows, I still have to support it. I am half owner of a VAR/Tech Support company in southern california. I currently have all macs at home, and a windows laptop for work.
Its vital to be able to install windows!
When I wanted a new computer late in 2005, I'd had a PowerBook G4 400mhz since about 6 months after they came out (was it 1991?) I forget, but I was'nt sure about the software and knew that an Intel mac was going to be out soon like summer 2006. I had more reservations about the software i use not beeing native (photoshop especially) but when they announced early that the MacBook Pro was out I really wanted windows on it.
i'm done buying macs
5 of us in Soft Eng school, we're gonna simply install OS X on PCs, so many people are doing it already and it seems to be working well.
waiting for hardware
I delayed replacing my dead iBook, waiting for the MacBooks to come out. I got an upgrade for my PM G4 while waiting for Conroe.
Too little too late for Windows
It's been two years since I got rid of my PeeCee and I haven't missed it. I recently got a MacBook which arrived just in time for Boot Camp and Parallels. I installed Parallels and tried it out. It works great but I not only do not have any need to run Windows software but I forgot just how bad Windows XP is. I play games on XBox and Civ 3 Complete plays great in Rosetta. I am interested in Civ 4 but I'm not willing to dedicate part of my hard drive to Windows just to play that game. I will be recommending this to my customers though. I see a great potential for moving PC users to Macs if they have only one or two critical apps they need and can run them in Parallels.
Mhh...
I'm completely m$-free and I wouldn't even consider the idea of contaminating my Mac with that most abominable os...
Now it's useful.
The thought of taking such a step backwards in speed (since so many apps won't be updated to Universal soon, and many legacy apps may never get updated) was not appealing so I had no plans of moving to Macintel any time soon. Plus the lack of VirtualPC means a few things I rely on couldn't be ran.
Just bought a G5 - d'oh!
I _just_ bought a dual G5 PowerMac (used) when I heard about Parallels. I currently run both a PC and a Mac, do NOT want to dual boot, but would love to be able to run both on one machine at the same time and VirtualPC just doesn't cut it. The next PC I buy will be an Intel Mac but that won't be probably for another two years.
Stuck in the past
I now have an "old" QuickSilver 2002 that is maxed out with add-ons. I will keep this machine until death due us part and upgrade Max OS X on it for as long as it is supported. I will buy the best new dual processor G5 I can before they disappear from the sales channels and do the same to it. I am old and retired and have no interest (or resources) in following Apple while it reshapes itself into just another generic PC clone manufacturer. I choose to be "stuck in the Motorola era" just as I chose to be stuck in the "60's". I have owned new Apple computers since 1986 but the end will soon be drawing near. No more "latest and greatest" for me.
Stuck in the past
I frankly don't understand this.
Dual/Virtual is great!
Boot Camp/Paralells is is the answer to my quandry.
It was one reason I bought the iMac
Before Parallels Workstation, before Boo Camp, before the Hackers did it, I knew the iMac would be able to run Windows and it was one reason I wanted to buy it (the other reason was to do some serious upgraded video editing). I thought it would take about 10-14 months. It barely took 10-14 weeks.
Recommendations to others
I was always going to buy computers that would run MacOSX, but now I can convince friends to buy the same, on the basis that they can just run XP. Then when they need help, I won't have to struggle with the latest windows troubles to fix things up. Maybe they'll even start to understand my preference.
Solidifies Apple's Position for me.
I'm in the SysAdmin world (Solaris, Windows, Mac, Linux). This will make it easier to spend the money to upgrade my dying G3 iBook. Normally I don't need all the fancy graphics cards that the Pro (powerbook) line gives (gave) you, thought a dang fast CPU would be nice.
Solidifies Apple's Position for me.
I'm in the SysAdmin world (Solaris, Windows, Mac, Linux). This will make it easier to spend the money to upgrade my dying G3 iBook. Normally I don't need all the fancy graphics cards that the Pro (powerbook) line gives (gave) you, thought a dang fast CPU would be nice.
Looks like I need to wait a little longer...
I have been using a Mac since 1999, and I would never concider purchasing a PC. However, being in the military, I have to use it. For writeups I need to use the military's software, (nothing senisitve of course) and it only runs on a PC, so I have dishonored my emac with Virtual PC which has windows 2000 on it. I hate it. I spent the money for the software, installed it and suffered through the slow, bug ridden software only three times. After that, I started working really late to finish things on base on the military's computers. I have been concidering getting a newer Mac for awhile, then intel models came out, so I was nearly going to jump on that bandwagon- just waiting the usual 6 months for the typical wrinkles to get ironed out. Now bootcamp has given me good reason to wait another 6 months for its wrinkles to get ironed out. Being able to run windows on my Mac is still something my conciounse has to deal with, but it beats working late without a beer at hand. Virtual PC doesnt cut it, so I am definitly going to appreciate this move by Apple.
Looks like I need to wait a little longer...
I am in the same boat as you. I am also in the military and it is frustrating that I cannot find any Mac software (except for MS Office) equivilant for the few Windows programs we use. I will still hold off on purchasing a new Intel Mac since my PB G4 is barely a year old, but this news is definately making me consider upgrading a lot sooner than I thought I would.
Purchase Plans
No change to my plans. I already have the money set aside to purchase a 17" MacBook Pro (ugh, hate the name) as soon as they are available. This 17" TiBook (1st generation) is ready for the shelf, rode hard and put away wet.
Real Estate
My wife is finishing her real estate license classes within the next month. I was afraid that I'd have to purchase a Windows PC Laptop for her and, by default, become her tech support person. Blech! Now that she has two perfectly good solutions for running those couple Windows apps she might need I'm buying her a MacBook Pro. Yoohoo!
Finally getting my wife to switch!
For years I have been trying to convet my wife to the mac camp. She is always more than happy to use my Mac, but , has staunchly refused to get her own. With the advent of boot camp, and to my mind even better is parallels virtulazation solution. Despite the fact that I have shown her solutions on the Mac for vurtualy every windows program she uses, she is reluctant to change in case something won't do what she wants. With this announcement she is now set on a new MacBook Pro as her next computer and an intel iMac as our houshold central repository. Of course as time goes on I'm sure that the windows partition will get less and less use. When I got my iBook two years ago and switched back to mac, I bought a copy of virtual PC for the few things that I hadn't found replacements for on a mac yet. It is still sealed in the package. The few things that I did still use (mostly PalmPilot) either came out with some sort of Mac solution shortly or I found a competeing product that worked on mac. This is where I put in my obligatory plug for NoeOffice...it keeps getting better and has no ties to Microsoft. Anyway, I think, and hope, that dual booting and virtualization along with Apples support with drivers will drive switchers. Also if they were to offer a home media server built around a mac mini with a huge hard drive and Apple built TIVO solution that would be a huge jump on piont for iPod switchers.
Not much effect
I have a PowerBook G4 and an old P3. Quite honestly the only reason I even use the PC is because the Aventail VPN software my work place uses does not provide full Mac support. And then once in a blue moon I use Counter-Strike. Other than that Windows is too infested with Malware for my taste, and anyhow the Mac works nicely thankyou very much.
Help My Clients
I won't be buying a new Mac any sooner, but I have clients who are getting new Macs and many of them will find it very useful to be able to use Windows as well as OS X, particularly those who are switching. Even though some of them are changing over to get away from Windows' problems, they still have Windows only applications they need to use occasionally.
Windows on macs
It doesn't affect my decision at all; I bought an Intel Mac on Jan 10th--well, I ordered it that day, but it was delivered about two weeks later.
Dual Boot Godsend for Rental Stations
I now run a PostNet with a focus on business services; I constantly fight the need to provide WinXP or Mac, and keeping enough rental stations available of either breed is frustrating. Using KVM switches is all well and good, but costly and crowded to have dual hardware at every desk.
Why ugly up a Mac?
I'm in the "why ugly up a Mac with Windoze" crowd. I have no reason to run Windoze at all. Any games I play have a Mac version, and I don't see the need to run Windoze just to play the hundreds of crappy games that are written for it.
Waiting for the 17" MacBook Pro
I always figured I would eventually be dual booting or VPCing as soon as I heard the Intel announcement at WWDC, but until the laptop with a 17" screen is released I will have to wait.
XP on Mac Comment
I delayed buying a new iBooks for my wife and niece to get the Intel version. For my wife because I hoped to get a smaller footprint and size for my niece going to college XP compatibility is useful.
No affect on Intel-based Mac purchase plans, but...
The announcement of BootCamp has had no affect on Intel-based Mac purchase plans, but...
I already got one
I already bought an iMac so it won't affect my buying. I used to use Virtual PC now and then for the odd freeware application.
Needs Windows-within-Window by Apple
It means I'll no longer have to keep an antiquated PC around to do things like updating the software on my GPS receiver, downloading waypoints, etc. But what I really want is for Apple to support "Windows-within-a-Window" rather than having to resort to a third-party solution or reboot into XP via the present Boot Camp.
too many buggggs
I won't install Bootcamp on my Mac, because the same type of viruses and other crap associated with the PC can have the same effects on the Mac once you begin to use bootcamp. Moreover, you have to continually keep up with the MS updates and patches. WAAAAAY too much drama for me!
I chose "other"
I chose "Other" because the ability to dual-boot XP and Mac OS X, and to run XP via Parallels does increase my desire to get an Intel Mac, for the ability to run games, to run some software at work that I currently can't run, and to facilitate providing support to family members that are sadly on Windows boxes, but I don't have any money to make a purchase, so it doesn't actually translate into a sooner purchase. Sigh. :)
MacBook Pro 17
I'm still holding out for a MacBook Pro with a 17 inch screen. I'm hoping we see this soon as I am ready to buy otherwise. I currently use a 1.5 GHZ Powerbook G4 17.
No need to buy a PC EVER!
I have an old laptop that I use mainly to sync to my Pocket PC and to running medical education software that is not Mac friendly.
Parallels is cool; BootCamp is nice
BootCamp is nice. But it's more useful as a tool to break down corporate resistance. I dual-booted LinuxPPC and OS 9 before I figured out how to run OS 9 in LinuxPPC. So Parallels is what I'll be using for my limited Windows app needs (WinIE testing, Visio) -- until Darwine is ready for prime time.
It doesn't change my mind but open up more opportunities
I've been planning to buy a MBP anyway but in my second life as a FreeBSD developer, t opens up new opportunities in having several FreeBSD versions as separate images, further helping my development on a single machine, the dual-core MBP ought to be fast enough :)
To use 3D programs
I was actually considering making my next computer purchase a Dual Opteron/Tyan Thunder MB rig as I'm now working in 3D and some of my favorite applications just run better in Windows or aren't made for Mac at all. Virtual PC wasn't an option. Now I will get one of the first Intel desktops, fill it up with RAM and have different drives for Windows and Mac. For me dual boot answered my functional needs without losing the utility of my preferred operating system (OS X) and the aesthetics of Mac hardware.
Yay! Another Mac Laptop!
I am doing Web Design work for a client who insists that I be able to preview the pages on a PC. He demanded that I get a PC laptop, and considering that he's one of my biggest cleints, I acquiesced.
Nice for the future
It will be nice to have when I buy my next Mac, but it won't make me want to buy one any sooner.
Already Have One
It added yet another feature to my Mac. It's nice to be rid of VPC, but Parallels pulls way too much processor time from the rest of the computer and BootCamp isn't quite as convenient, but impressively fast!
No more PC laptops needed
Boot Camp affects me the other way round - there is no need anymore to have a Windows laptop in the bottom drawer just in case one needs to use software which is only available for Windows. Now I can get rid of my ugly Acer laptop :-)
As good of an excuse as any...
"It runs Windows!" was a great excuse to switch (for the 2nd time). Yeah, I may try booting XP on it, but most likely I'll continue to use Microsoft's Remote Desktop client on it to access a real PC. |
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