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The assumed OS X 10.4 (Tiger) will be shown at WWDC in July. When will it be on the shelves?

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February 2005
Authored by: Bookman on May 05, '04 11:25:31AM

I expect it to be the Big Announcement at MWSF05, but not to be available for purchase until some weeks afterward. SOP for other past releases.



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Again?
Authored by: yellow on May 06, '04 03:51:25PM
I cannot imagine there will be so many new features that Apple will roll-out and charge $129 for yet another OS upgrade when there are so many people still using Jaguar and Panther is less then a year old. I HOPE that they will hold onto it (and polish it) until FY2005.

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WWDC Revelation; 2005 Rollout
Authored by: newbish on May 10, '04 09:33:08AM

I think the key to remember is that this is a developers' conference. Revealing the structure and features of Tiger makes a lot of sense when looking at a 2005 Q1 (@ earliest!) release of the product.

This will give the developers plenty of time to create/alter their products to take advantage of things to come. It also gives the rest of us something to drool about and work ourselves into quite a frenzy over by the time it's ready for release, thereby guaranteeing Apple lots of sales right out of the gates!

I'd like to hear from the rest of you: "What features would you like to see?" A couple things I can think of include:

  1. Deeper integration of Xwindows support, so when a program that uses Xwindows runs, it doesn't have to be started from the command line in the X11 app. Not everyone that wants to use common X apps out there is comfortable with the command line. It would be nice if I started something from Terminal.app, and the Xwindowing was already there and ready to go.
  2. A well promoted API for XGrid. I do a lot of 3D graphics work. Using a cluster for rendering is a wonderful timesaver — but it's a bear to set up unless you really know what you are doing! Programs such as Maya, Lightscape, form•Z and good 'ole POV-Ray are either written to or come with routines that can be propagated for distributed-rendering within a local network. For the average user it's pretty difficult to get successful results without a lot of hand holding from tech support. These programs should check to see if XGrid is available, and take advantage of it if it is active.

Given time, I could probably think of a few more things, but those are the items I deal with the most of late.



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WWDC Revelation; 2005 Rollout
Authored by: nite77 on May 11, '04 03:01:45PM

Fix the bugs and tweak features first.

1) Mainly with Finder & SMB. (Selecting and dragging multiple icons crashes Finder nine out of ten. Opening a smb shared folder crashes Finder nine out of ten. Dragging from desktop BUT from a Finder window works everytime, opening AFP shared (same folder, same machine) works everytime.)
2) Safari up to speed with other browser with Flash - now it's horribly slow.
3) iChat more compatible with AIM & fix the damn thing for good. Video-Video works like 3 out of 4 and Audio-Audio doesn't work -ever- for me.
5) iCal internationlition: "week starts at" -days fixed (in Finland we start our weeks from Monday, but iCal starts from Sunday, even if Finnish dates & stuff is selected.
(Port it over to Win, AIM is U*G*L*Y and sucks, Win folks would probably pay for it, my parents included. The video resize/fullscreen in iChat simply rocks.)

Additional Features/Changes:

1) iLife expansion: Include iCal & Mail (name/buy trademark & name it iMail) in iLife, add features to both of them: Update iMail to look like the rest of iLife (but it would be really great to include a system-wide De-Metallifize -option for them who hate the look.), add "Smart Lists" so you can keep your mail in the order -You- like, even including individual mails in different categories, like iPhoto & iTunes already do. iCal/iSync/.Mac combo should be able to make it possbile for a family to share one calendar/many calendars that have common elements so that individuals can add/remove personal info that other can read, but not edit and add/edit common items that are important/editable to all, and it should be able to indicate (color shade difference) between all members. And optimally should only need one .Mac account. (I can't explain this well, so if somebody doesn't get it, please ask me to explain in detail.) And iCal & iMail should still be free, altought included in iLife, just like iTunes.

2) AddressBook BlueTooth gateway: add "stay connected" and "try to connect automatically every xxx min/sec" -options. I hate clicking the button constantly :)

3) iLife Expansion II: iPaint -concept. Mac is a "designers computer" (at least widely regarded as that), but even Windows includes a "painting program", although very crude. But Mac doesn't have anything. It would be very nice for Apple to include a Basic-level painting program with primitive features, so that out-of-the-box it would have painting capability. Something between MS Paint and Adobe Photoshop Elements. Not all of us need Photoshop CS :) Something like Elements without Layers, Filters, Styles, and stuff. Very basic. Like Art Dabbler, license it from MetaCreations :)

Additional Would-be-nice not-important eye-candy:

1) Support for Vector Icons. I know it doesn't sound great, but many artists would love it. And that would mean scalability beyond anything else. (How about 512px icon for the one important program you keep on that 4000x3000 33" display? :D

And the most important last: Something like Expos, something that no-one had thought about, but once you try you wonder how you lived without :)

whoops. it's long but hopefully not boring :)

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WWDC Revelation; 2005 Rollout
Authored by: swedentom on May 17, '04 12:06:28PM

"5) iCal internationlition: "week starts at" -days fixed (in Finland we start our weeks from Monday, but iCal starts from Sunday, even if Finnish dates & stuff is selected."

You can change this in iCal Preferences.



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WWDC Revelation; 2005 Rollout
Authored by: nite77 on May 12, '04 09:58:58AM

agh. and of course, I forgot the -real- most important feature: Home-on-iPod. This would be really something, and it would be really great if it could work with -any- portable harddisk, FireWire -and- USB.

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WWDC Revelation; 2005 Rollout
Authored by: noahisaac on May 21, '04 02:40:58PM
What I'd love to see is some method of filesharing from the finder that is encrypted, so:

1.  Secure (SSL) WebDAV drive that could be finder-mounted.
2.  SSH/SCP finder-mountable drive.
3.  Some addition to AFS, CIFS, or NFS that would allow an encrypted mounting of the drive.

Special bonus:  If any of these could be locally cached for offline file access when no network connection is available.


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WWDC Revelation; 2005 Rollout
Authored by: mtennes on Aug 20, '04 10:36:05AM

I would like to see SOCKS proxy support for Mail and other OS X applications.

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Fall Release
Authored by: Iowa Boy on May 12, '04 03:54:38PM

The last several releases have been previewed at WWDC and released in the Fall. Now, usually WWDC is in May -- not the end of June. So, who knows. I would love it if Apple stuck to a once-a-year release. I think that it really moves the platform forward. OS X is booking along.

I was suprised to see a significant number of people not only voting for Jan 2005, but actually desiring that late of a release.

I guess that I will be in the minority....Keep 'em rollin' Apple!



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Fall Release
Authored by: viscaria on May 19, '04 12:14:28PM

I agree with you, but I don't have to pay $129 for my updates. I get a fat discount as a University student, and the annual update price is much easier for me to swallow.



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