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Yes, definitely, as soon as I can in my area 1,544 (27.41%)
Yes, but not version 1.0 1,260 (22.37%)
Perhaps, but need to see it in person 1,082 (19.21%)
No, I can't/won't commit to Cingular 966 (17.15%)
No, I'm not interested at all 521 (9.25%)
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Authored by: pete on Jan 13, '07 07:40:06PM

Living in Canada, I will wait until it is available through some provider up here. I want it! Looks so cool.

Of course being up in the high Arctic now means it is of now use to me, but when I return home in July, I hope to upgrade my phone to an iPhone!

If it means changing providers, then so be it! Who cares if I get a different number!



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Other...
Authored by: jeaginsky on Jan 15, '07 07:47:46PM

re: canadia, a long chat w/ cingular informed me that unlike verizon they have no plan to offer a... um... plan that would include calls to/from nafta countries, instead suggesting that perhaps while their Canada Package of $5/mo would enable you to receive/send calls FROM canada for minutes + $.50, their rollover model (your unused minutes get credited to next month's) should make up for the difference.
hrmf. that's all i have to say to that. think Fido/Rogers/Tellus/Bell will bite?



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Other...
Authored by: mayo2ca on Jan 15, '07 11:15:31PM

Actually, Rogers will be the Canadian provider for iPhone and it'll probably take about a year to get everything ready.



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Other...
Authored by: Big Blue Canuck on Jan 16, '07 01:19:31AM

My email reply from Roger's:

Rogers is actively working with Apple to launch the iPhone in Canada as
soon as possible and will be the exclusive provider of the iPhone in
Canada.

Rogers will be offering the iPhone exclusively in Canada but launch date
and pricing for Canada are not yet available. Other Canadian wireless
carriers will not launch the iPhone, Rogers will be the only Canadian
wireless carrier to offer the iPhone.



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Other...
Authored by: tyip on Jan 16, '07 11:59:59AM

Being the only GSM phone provider, Rogers is the only one who can support the iPhone. Also, I think you can keep your cell. no. now when you change providers.



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Other...
Authored by: adrianm on Jan 29, '07 06:35:57AM

Why do you need to change number if you change provider?

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Missing item...
Authored by: chabig on Jan 15, '07 05:21:54PM

This poll needs another item:

Yes, when my current contract expires.



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And Also
Authored by: lullabud on Jan 15, '07 05:39:48PM

Another option is needed: "I'm still considering the monthly service fee."



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Cingular
Authored by: JaxMyers on Jan 15, '07 05:22:05PM

Cingular sucks. My dad and sister had a lot of problems being overcharged and having bad reception and all kinds of bad stuff with them. I've been using T-Mobile since I moved to the USA and I have no complaints. I can browse the web and check my POP email on my Nokia Symbian phone for $5 per month, unlimited data and my phone is an EDGE phone. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be a lot more expensive and with all the bad stories from my family I don't want to switch. Plus I'm on a contract with T-Mobile. If it was unlocked, supported EDGE and GSM, I'd seriously consider getting one.



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Cingular
Authored by: sjmills on Jan 15, '07 05:28:16PM

Every phone company sucks to someone, and every phone company is the greatest to someone.



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Cingular
Authored by: ashill on Jan 15, '07 06:24:32PM

I'm with you on both, as a former (very unhappy) Cingular customer and a current (very happy) T-Mobile customer. I generally tend to think that every big company has its share of demons, but I've found T-Mobile's customer service to be exemplary in the few instances in which I've needed to talk to them. (Rarely needing to talk to a phone company is the best kind of customer service.)

If Apple sells the iPhone directly or through T-Mobile at a lower price point -- as eventually happened with the iPod -- I'll jump on it. That probably won't be for a few years.



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Cingular
Authored by: azraq27 on Jan 15, '07 06:41:48PM

I switched from Cingular to T-Mobile to get a free phone, and I miss Cingular. I thought their service and coverage were much better (at least in my area).

To me, the carrier isn't that big of a deal, but if I were to pick one here (Milwaukee, WI), I'd pick Cingular.



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Cingular
Authored by: conigs on Jan 16, '07 06:45:26AM

Another fairly happy cingular customer here (also from Milwaukee).

I second the comment above. Every phone company has its disgruntled customers and its fans. A friend of mine recently switched TO Cingular FROM T-Mobile because his reception was horrible. I noted that mine was fine. He popped his T-Mobile SIM into my (unlocked) Cingular phone, and the reception was still crummy. A few weeks later, he switched and has been pretty happy since.

There's always going to be someone who's had trouble with a phone company. And they're going to be extremely vocal about it. Just remember that the only way you'll know what a phone company is like is to talk to customers actively, and not just passively listen to complaints on the internet.

Back on-topic. I'd be willing to look at the iPhone but not until a.) I see it and use it in person 2.) I know what its short-comings/bugs are and if they'll be addressed in a revB release and 3.) more abot the software distribution model (will it just be through the iTunes store, or will I be able to get software directly from a provider? Will open source software be available? Etc...)



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Probably not
Authored by: sjmills on Jan 15, '07 05:26:23PM

Working from home, I don't have a lifestyle where an iPhone would be useful at all. I have a cell phone (through Cingular, because AT&T should be the only phone company around) that stays in my truck, which I'll turn on if I happen to go somewhere on the weekend so my girlfriend can call and ask me to get lightbulbs or whatever we might be out of. I have a 1st generation iPod that I used to use every day when I worked at an office. Now it only gets used when we go on trips and I plug it into the stereo in the truck.

If I made so much money that I just didn't care, then I'd get one because it's the coolest geeky device anyone has made in years. The UI is just so right and so Apple. And it doesn't come in brown.



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Other
Authored by: edinc90 on Jan 15, '07 05:40:15PM

I have a cell phone that I never use, so buying the iPhone would be a waste of money. I would be too scared to carry it and risk losing or damaging it. I also have not once talked to someone on my cell phone, so I have no need for one anyway. I would probably end up only using the iPod and video part of it (but then I could just buy a regular iPod, right?)



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3G / HSDPA
Authored by: corienti on Jan 15, '07 05:46:04PM

I will be getting one the very second they've got 3G. But probably not before.

I currently use a 3G phone and while the phone is only ok, the 3G speed is great. I couldn't go back to pre-3G; it's just too slow for any real internet use. Of course, I also use it to have true mobile access on my MBP via the phone/bluetooth.



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Another Other
Authored by: verdon on Jan 15, '07 05:56:08PM

I'm Canadian too, so will have to wait and see. It will definately depend on the provider. I've heard it might be the one that starts with an R and ends with an s, and that would sure be a shame. I wouldn't give them another dime :)



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Another Other
Authored by: mayo2ca on Jan 15, '07 11:24:40PM

Nobody else in Canada has GSM network. If you want to have through one of the two crappy CDMA providers, you'll have to wait till they produce the phones for Asia, as those will (almost certainly have to) be CDMA based phones.



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Other ...
Authored by: whodisbe on Jan 15, '07 05:58:27PM

I have a Treo 650, there are only two things the iPhone has that the Treo doesn't (that I care about)..

1) pinch for zooming
2) lack of a keyboard - this one is neither a pro or a con for me.

The iPod part of it I don't care about, I use my Treo for business purposes, it keeps my schedule and has all kinds of software used to make my work day easier. The iPhone doesn't have the latter.... the ability to install 3rd party software, of any type, or to write my own and throw it onto the iPhone as I see fit.

For me a good tech product is all about, in Steve's word "One more thing...". What else can I do with this tool (and that's what any device is), what else can I squeeze out of this device... and the iPhone, just doesn't have that capability.



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Unfortunately not
Authored by: john_dough on Jan 15, '07 06:01:10PM

I have a problem when it comes to buying phones, a new one every 6 months or so, i use them a lot, and am very particular, so I am always willing to jump to the latest greatest.

I can not get a touch screen phone.

Everything else about it is extremely drool worthy, but the fact that i have to look at the screen to use it is a deal breaker for me. I can touch type on my blackberry, and speed dial with out looking at the phone while driving. Neither of which is possible with a touch screen with no tactile feedback.

However, I would gladly pay $500 for the iPhone, without the phone part. I would be happy to use it as a wi-fi internet enabled iPod. Eventually I am hoping this is the direction they go. As I already carry a phone and an iPod. It would mean I could go back to regular phones instead of the blackberry.



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Unfortunately not
Authored by: mnb on Jan 16, '07 09:06:29AM

As of January 2008, it will be illegal to operate your Blackberry while driving (without handsfree gear).

Of course, it looks like the iPhone won't have voice dialing, so that will make handsfree gear pretty limited. And what's up with the no sync via bluetooth or wifi? Are they INSANE?



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Not at that price.
Authored by: siliconman on Jan 15, '07 06:15:18PM

I hope there will be a nice used/refurb market in time. I bought 3g ipods last year for a great price. I don't mind being behind when there is that much money on the line.



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No to Cingular
Authored by: dr_bob_cms on Jan 15, '07 06:28:23PM

I said "No", but I would actually like to say "Yes, just not with Cingular". I'll wait until it comes out in Europe. Hopefully over there it'll be unlocked. Then I'll bring it back and use it on T-Mobile.



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It's going to take a long time....
Authored by: transistor on Jan 15, '07 06:38:20PM

I voted "Yes, as soon as available in my area", but being that area Mexico, I guess it's going to take a very long time before I can get one.
I am pretty sure some clever hacker will get this baby unblocked sometime soon after it's release, so maybe then :-)
aaah... who knows. So close to Apple, so far away!

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Don't own a cell phone
Authored by: mspangler on Jan 15, '07 07:01:17PM

and don't want a cell phone.

When I am on call, I use the company cell phone, and it's two bars at best inside. Outside is three. So this is a fringe area anyway.

In general, I'm not carrying a cell phone unless I'm being paid to do it. On this topic I am a Luddite. :-p



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Don't own a cell phone
Authored by: calum on Jan 16, '07 04:53:05PM

I'm with you... cellphones are the single biggest irritant in modern society :)

I have one in my car in case I break down, and have no other need for one. If anyone wants to phone me, I have a landline in my office and another in my house. If I'm not in either of those two places, I really don't want to be hearing from anyone!

I can't say I even particularly want a widescreen iPod, especially one that's going to be covered in smeary fingermarks every 10 minutes... audio is what it does best, and that's the only use I intend to put mine to for the forseeable future.



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I don't get it
Authored by: tobarstep on Jan 15, '07 07:12:07PM

Hey, I like my Mac as much as the next guy, but I really don't understand all this gushing over a phone with a low-end iPod built in. To all the people who are waiting for it to be "unlocked", I have to think you are going to be waiting a loooong time. I've heard a lot of speculation about it running OS X, but I really don't think so. The iPod doesn't, so why sould this? Plus, Apple has already stated that there will be no 3rd party software allowed on the device and no outside development allowed. I'm no legal expert, but I think that would violate the licensing of Darwin - so no OS X there.

I don't have a problem with Cingular, but I really don't understand why they phone is not going to be broadband capable. Sure, it has built-in wi-fi, but that's only good in a hotspot. The only reason to have data access on a phone is to use it in locations where you can't use wi-fi. In a way, I agree with the guy who said he wouldn't mind having a wi-fi capable iPod. This device would make a great one, but it needs more storage space for that.



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I don't get it
Authored by: Shawn Parr on Jan 15, '07 08:56:48PM
Plus, Apple has already stated that there will be no 3rd party software allowed on the device and no outside development allowed. I'm no legal expert, but I think that would violate the licensing of Darwin - so no OS X there.

First, Apple and no one from Apple has said that. To paraphrase they stated that software distribution will have to be limited. All software will be sold through Apple but "that doesn't mean that it has to be Apple who writes the software." There is a precedent for this on the iPod where 3rd party developers can write software (games) for newer iPods, but the only way to purchase/install the software is via the iTunes music store.

Secondly Apple owns the rights to Darwin, so while if another company was to base a phone on Darwin they would have to release the source code, Apple is totally within their legal rights to keep the changes to make darwin run on the phone completely secret. Apple owns the code, they don't license it like someone else would. MySQL does the exact same thing, they release their code GPL, but you can buy a commercial license with a different level of support from them if you wish.

There are a lot of things we don't know yet, especially with how to get access to programming environments and the API, but just stating that it is impossible when there are quotes from Steve Jobs himself stating that this is untrue only helps to spread fud against the device. Will this be a perfect device for you or me? Who knows until it ships, but let's not present speculation as fact.



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Darwin is not GPL
Authored by: ryanparrish on Jan 15, '07 11:13:47PM

Darwin came from a BSD license lineage, thus no modified code needs to be released.



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Needs more Software!
Authored by: harmless on Jan 15, '07 08:07:31PM

That thing needs full 3rd party software support. Otherwise it's just not worth it.

No VoIP, no iChat, no IRC, no SSH, ... I though it was meant to be a communications device? I'd rather get a Treo.



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Buy an iPhone not an option
Authored by: scottkitts on Jan 15, '07 08:10:41PM

I don't live that far from Cupertino, but Cingular isn't available where I live and it's not likely that it ever will be. (Note: Verizon, Sprint, U.S. Cellular are, just to name a few, but not Cingular). So, it really doesn't matter how good the iPhone is, what features it has, how good Cingular's service is or isn't, or how much it costs; I physically can't buy one.



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WiFi - unbundled
Authored by: azstefano on Jan 15, '07 09:50:48PM

The iPhone appeals to me as an IP communicator with the cellphone as an adjunct. I would buy an iPhone only if I had unrestricted and unbundled usage in areas where I had access to Wireless LAN. HSDPA/3G has no appeal to me - too many cents/bit. Edge/2.5G is just fine for voice use outside of WiFi areas.

If the iPhone doesn't allow third party VoIP, iChat and file transfer, I have no use for it. I don't need an additional $70/mo. subscription when WLAN gives me so much better value and flexibility. "Convergence" isn't worth such a shackled device.

The device and its interface seem like a home run. It may not be too long before Apple takes the shackles off.



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Closed platform
Authored by: ilchymis on Jan 15, '07 10:57:30PM

There's no way that I'm going to buy that expensive a portable device unless it's an open platform. Even if Apple decides to sell third-party apps for the iPhone, the fact that they insist on controlling distribution probably indicates that we won't see VoIP, instant messaging, or other applications that might interfere with Cingular's income. And programming the iPhone for my own purposes would probably be more trouble than it's worth.

(Let alone the fact that Cingular is horrible in the Gainesville area. Of course they have the least dropped calls: One can never place a call in the first place.)

I hate to have to admit this here, but whatever model I end up choosing as my next cell phone, it will almost certainly run on Windows Mobile.



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Closed platform
Authored by: gurple on Jan 16, '07 02:26:38PM

Agreed in full!

I think Apple is missing pushing the future, blinded to the potential for disruptive change, by making an open IP communication device with the phone as appurtenant. It should be an open platform that any professional to hobbyist can develop tools and applications for.

If the decision was made to sell the device as it is without carrier lock-in and only with the standard GSM support what would the customer lose? It would seem to me that the sacrifice would be the out-of-order voice mail which supposedly needs some smarts within the center of the network.

What would the customer gain? I would argue that he would be given greater value than his loss. A choice of carriers and data plans would be at his disposal, a wealth of freely available tools assembled piecemeal as needed, and a step into the wireless IP world where its potential is to do the same to traditional wireless voice providers what the Internet did to the networks and practices of Ma Bell.

If Apple chose this route they would have to sell the device beyond the shelves of the carriers. But any GSM customer from around the world could use the device upon its immediate availability. Cingular and T-Mobile customers could equally come to Apple's counter with hard cash in hand. I think they would gain more sales in shorter time even foregoing and passing on the cost to the customer of perhaps as much as 100% subsidy that Cingular is fronting on the device.

Would you buy an iPhone for $1000 if it were all that it is now as well as having no carrier lock-in and a growing wealth of professional and community developed software? I know I would.

And for the tripe of Jobs saying that it has to be a closed and/or centrally controlled platform to protect the fragility of the wireless network?! Does this "foreign attachment" argument have any legs at all?! Maybe all those dropped calls are because of the Treo owners sshing or whatever dastardly deeds they're up to with their contraband java apps.

The iPhone appears to be a great device cut off at the knees by a tragic lack of vision and perhaps the misguidance of myopic greed. It could be a new platform. But now it's only an expensive and nicely polished toy.

The only constant is change. Let's hope change is in the iPhone's favor.

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Other
Authored by: mayo2ca on Jan 15, '07 11:19:34PM

As soon as
* it becomes available in my area
* there is HSDPA version of it
* Apple comes up with SSH widget/app for it (or alternatively opens it up)



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Is this a usable *mobile* phone at all?
Authored by: joh on Jan 16, '07 03:25:18AM

I mean, really. It looks very much as if it just may suck as a phone.

It's too large and heavy to just put it in a shirt pocket, it has an interface that requires holding it with both hands (at least The Steve demonstrated it by using both hands *always*) and staring at the screen for the most basic operations. Unlocking it by sliding a virtual switch on a touch-screen is just madness, one of the most insane ideas I have ever seen on a phone. It may be OK for toying around while sitting in an armchair, but in many of the typical situations where I use a phone the interface seems to be ridiculous.

And when you really use it for listening to music, it will drain the battery fast enough to require recharging daily. When you use it for anything that requires the screen on, it will drain the battery fast enough to last not even over a typical day (four hours of video and it's not a phone anymore, because it will be just dead).

On the other hand, as a really useful mobile internet device (think sub-notebook with a touchscreen) it's way too small.

I think *two* devices would've been better: A slider-phone very much like a iPod nano with a phone added, with a dead-simple interface (which could have been ready at least one year ago and might have captured a large part of the mobile phone market) and an "iPad" with a larger screen (at least 6 inch and 800x600, maybe even more) and all the functionality the iPhone has.

I was quite interested at first, but after thinking it over, no. The idea and technology is great, but it's both too small and too big.



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I want one but...
Authored by: mlanger on Jan 16, '07 05:25:37AM

I don't want to sign up with Cingular. I travel a lot and have excellent coverage with Verizon. I won't buy an iPhone until it's compatible with Verizon -- then I'm likely to be first in line.



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Eventually...
Authored by: reece146 on Jan 16, '07 08:12:13AM

I'll end up with one eventually (when my Nokia dies) but in the meantime the AppleTV widget is much higher on my priority list.



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Purple Elephant in the Room
Authored by: jcull on Jan 16, '07 08:58:51AM

No option for no freakin' way am I paying that much for a phone?!



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I'll pass
Authored by: mnb on Jan 16, '07 09:03:51AM

While there are some really interesting aspects to the iPhone, it's clear after some examination that Apple is a newbie to making cell phones. There are fundamentals they just don't get yet:

1) no replaceable battery. This isn't an ipod, it's a communication device that some people NEED 100% accessibility with. That means when your battery goes dead, you swap in another one. This is not possible with the iPhone.

2) clumsy or impossible to operate with a single hand. I can operate my phone with one hand. This is handy. By itself, not quite a deal killer, but #1 alone is and this one almost is.

3) cannot protect cover. You can put a case on an ipod and still operate the wheel. You can't with the iPhone. It requires the touch of your finger. The only thing you can protect is the sides and back.

4) heavily restricted software. With all the PDA/Smart Phones out there that you can download apps for, Apple's missing the boat playing the restrictive card.

And there's more, too, but I'll stop here.

For me, this isn't even a prototype. They need to go back to the drawing board and find a way to solve these key problems before iPhone will ever be a real player in the market.



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I'll pass
Authored by: frgough on Jan 16, '07 11:23:50AM
1) no replaceable battery. This isn't an ipod, it's a communication device that some people NEED 100% accessibility with. That means when your battery goes dead, you swap in another one. This is not possible with the iPhone.

Yep. People walk around with spare cell phone batteries in their pockets so they can swap them out when they forget to charge the phone up the previous night. FUD #1.

2) clumsy or impossible to operate with a single hand. I can operate my phone with one hand. This is handy. By itself, not quite a deal killer, but #1 alone is and this one almost is.

How do you know? You haven't used one before. FUD #2.

3) cannot protect cover. You can put a case on an ipod and still operate the wheel. You can't with the iPhone. It requires the touch of your finger. The only thing you can protect is the sides and back.

Ditto with clamshell phones. Gotta flip the clamshell up to access the phone. First accessory out for this will be a clamshell cover. FUD #3.

4) heavily restricted software. With all the PDA/Smart Phones out there that you can download apps for, Apple's missing the boat playing the restrictive card.

How do you know? You haven't used the product. You're going off of rumors. FUD #4.

And there's more, too, but I'll stop here.

Good. It was getting boring.

For me, this isn't even a prototype. They need to go back to the drawing board and find a way to solve these key problems before iPhone will ever be a real player in the market.

2001 is calling. It wants the iPod rant back.

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Locked in
Authored by: mitra on Jan 16, '07 04:21:10PM

No - I won't buy this for the same I don't have an iPod - the lock in to Apple for everything else. OSX is significantly weakened by its attempt to force you to use .Mac, sure there are ways around it, but they don't have the easyness or flow that you expect from Apple. This attitude at Apple is what will keep me away from an iPhone, an assumption that instead of facilitating communications it will attempt to drive you to Apple-owned channels (e.g. if it does voice, I bet its limited to iChat, rather than allowing Skype, or VoIP)

No - I'll wait for a generic phone with Skype / VoIP and WiFi and a MP3 player built in.



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Locked in
Authored by: mnb on Jan 16, '07 05:22:02PM

I'm against being locked into technologies I don't like. I have no problem with the iPod. I can rip my own CDs and import them just fine. I don't want a soft copy only of my music because computers die or get stolen.

The music and video is nice, but frankly, I could care less. 8gb isn't enough to replace my ipod. Especiallly with the net features.

If you buy generic, that's what you get. Run of the mill, nothing special. I have my issues with the iPhone and I won't go for 1.0, but I'm watching it closely. I expect they'll respond and make some changes that could well make them a major player in the high end cell phone market.



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FUD = Fanboi Ulimately Delusional
Authored by: mnb on Jan 16, '07 05:16:59PM
I've been a Mac fan since the mid 80s and even worked at Apple for a while. I'm still a Mac user. So to accuse me of spreading FUD when I bring up valid points is absurd:

Yep. People walk around with spare cell phone batteries in their pockets so they can swap them out when they forget to charge the phone up the previous night. FUD #1.
Under heavy use, the batteries won't last a full day. I can drop my cell phone to under 50% in medium use in a single day and it's not a phone known for short battery life. It doesn't play video. Having a spare battery, either on you or at home for a quick swap is invaluable. REALISM #1

How do you know? You haven't used one before. FUD #2.
Watch the keynote. It's big, it's many actions just to get to a number. Now, yes, the interface may change to make this easier before release, who knows. Steve sure didn't one hand it, and I've worked on enough devices and UIs to know that it's not going to be very comfortable with this. REALISM #2.

Ditto with clamshell phones. Gotta flip the clamshell up to access the phone. First accessory out for this will be a clamshell cover. FUD #3.
Should someone be able to come out with one that works well and is comfortable to hold, then I'd be fine with that. Doesn't exist. You're speculating, I'm not. REALISM #3

How do you know? You haven't used the product. You're going off of rumors. FUD #4.
Do your homework. Steve's on the record about this. REALISM #4

I'm glad you're jazzed about the iPhone. I think it brings alot of creative ideas to the market. I think if you buy 1.0, you will become rapidly disappointed with it in that it needs further refinement as a PHONE. When that comes, I'll be happy to jump on the bandwagon. But I'm not going to be a fanboi that's blind to reality.

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History repeating
Authored by: morrick on Jan 16, '07 06:11:21PM
It's like I'm watching a re-run of the first iPod launch, six years ago. "It's pricey, it's not open, it doesn't have recording features, it doesn't have a FM tuner, it only has 5 GB of disk space, ...". Yeah, yeah. Let's see when the iPhone is finished and actually available. Five months from now (in the USA), maybe ten months (in Europe) – for the in-house Apple developers it's a time interval next to eternity.

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yes with a caveat...
Authored by: andybeach on Jan 16, '07 07:24:28PM

in the next 6 months I will need to be convinced by the further features they roll out and what decision gets made for 3rd party app support. I do want this, but i feel like the dev. community support of the phone could be a real breaking point for me.



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Cell phones...
Authored by: gidds on Jan 17, '07 02:30:48AM

I guess I understand both your positions. Yes, there are loads of people who use phones inconsiderately, have them set to ludicrously annoying ringtones, and shout into them. And yes, there are employers who use them to take over their employees' lives.

But this isn't how it has to be; please don't let such things colour your view of the phones themselves. My phone, for example, is set to the most bland, simple ringtone I can find (i.e. it sounds like a phone ringing!), and starts off quiet enough that I've usually answered it before anyone else has heard it. (It helps that I carry it in a trouser pocket, not stashed away inside a handbag or briefcase that takes three minutes to reach!) And the phone is mine, not my employer's: I give the number to all my friends and family -- I've also given it to a few trusted work colleagues, but I don't think they've called it once.

Finally, remember that, like a landline phone, a mobile is your tool, not your master. If it's inconvenient, don't feel you need to answer it! You can always check who rang and call them back if necessary. It's perfectly possible to use one in a way which is a help rather than a curse, and which is considerate to those around you. (Though, like many gadgets, its usefulness is in direct proportion to how often you carry it and have it turned on.)

As for the iPhone, it looks like an amazing bit of kit, and the geek in me would put down money immediately. (Even despite the lack of programmability.) But, in practical terms: it has nowhere near enough storage to replace my 60GB iPod (itself holding only half my music); and it's lacking the infrared modem that would let it replace my existing phone (which I use with my Psion). And I really can't justify an addition to the collection of gadgets I cart around with me... :(



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No crippling please...
Authored by: rlandlaus on Jan 17, '07 06:37:18AM

I know most of these are "me too's":
It's been years that I pay full price for any of our phones/pda's. Even if it's cost me more than double the "subsidized" prices everytime.

I've made the mistake of buying 1.0 one too many times 5 years ago.

Cingular?! You've gotta be kidding me! Pay $500 for the privilege of being ripped off by the most incompetent company across the board? Have you ever tried to get anything done with those people? The single worst company I've ever had the misfortune to deal with.

No VOIP? No Skype? No Developer Apps? No Batteries? Why Don't they just manufacture a pretty shell with some blinking lights, call it the NoPhone, sell that for $500? People WILL buy it just cause it's so cute and spare us the agony of finding out how useless it really is?

I currently use a Nokia e61 in the US! Bought in the grey market IN the US! Just go to Amazon. Those in the know, know that if I was a normal person I'd be using the e62 in the US!! And do you know what the difference between the 2 is? No! Not the price: they both cost $500. The ONLY difference is that the e62 has the WIFI function crippled out of it so the likes of Cingular would sell them to the american public.

I really think there should be laws that prohibit the crippling of technological advances on any device in any market. But of course too many are feeding of this state of affairs, not the least of which are the likes of Apple's Jobs and that onslaught of moronic "politicians" sharpening their claws in anticipation of the coming masquerade we learned to call "Presidential Elections".

Just my $0.02 worth.



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Other
Authored by: tirerim on Jan 17, '07 10:07:28AM

It depends on what they add to future versions. Currently, with only an 8 GB drive it wouldn't even be able to replace my iPod, let alone be remotely useful for watching movies on. The battery life seems too short for something that I'm going to use for listening to music, making calls, and web browsing. And it's not clear that it will even run Terminal for me to use ssh in. Combined with the price, it's not nearly worth it for me at this point. On the other hand, if future versions fix these problems and really make it an effective handheld computer, then I would probably get one.



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Cingular is a horrible cell phone company..
Authored by: yossie on Jan 19, '07 01:30:54PM

GSM seems nice, but Cingular has never been a good company to work with and shows no signs of improving. I have had to call the PUC on them multiple times for overcharging me as much as $400 and refusing to refund it - in the end, after intervention, they did. Their customer service is surly-polite, if you know what I mean. Getting to a live person is an exercise in patience, the phone menu is practically never ending. So, I will hold off till they have a CDMA version that works with Verizon - and, no I am not a giant fan of Verizon, but compared to Cingular, there is no contest.
On a different note, if in fact Safari on the iPhone *IS* Safari (did Steve "mislead us" when he said it was the same Safari as on Desktops?), then you have an application platform built in - Safari supports a plenty rich DHTML/AJAX model that allows for Widgets and other web based apps. Think "Web2.0" and the iPhone makes a lot more sense as an edge-unit in that arena.



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Sent Back a Treo 700P
Authored by: Harrington on Jan 22, '07 01:57:45PM

Located in British Columbia, Canada. As a result, when the iPhone does get released we will be behind the power curve and will be lucky if service is available here within the year. However, by the time we see it up here many bugs will be worked out with the iPhone firmly into version 2 or even 3. 3rd party software will be embraced and the prices will have come down with memory storage going up.

The personal good news. My Telus (CDMA carrier) contract in now up and I won't renew. Wasn't going to anyway as I figured Apple would go GSM, at least initially and wants the "World" market. So, I'll be looking at Rogers which is the GSM carrier in CanuckleLand.

I had purchased a Treo 700P without a contract to try out. I just got off the phone to return it under the 30-day money back guarantee. It's not a bad PDA just not a great one. The Palm software is pretty long in the tooth. Didn't take me too long to crash it and then crash it again like a Yugo with bald tires. I fully expected to return the smartphone and Apple's iPhone introduction was the final, mitigating reason.



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