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Which of the following choices would do the most to secure Apple's future success?
1/1: Which of the following choices would do the most to secure Apple's future success?
Other polls | 3,495 votes | 32 comments
Apple computers that run Windows.
One thing would help. Faster, cheaper computers that run Windows. I don't think many Windows users are 'brave' enough to change OS, which involves a lot of learning and a lot of money to buy new versions of applications. But I reckon lots of Windows users would happily buy Apple hardware, IF it ran Windows.
Faster, cheaper, runs Windows and, oh, cures cancer, too.
Who could ask for anything more?
Apple computers that run Windows.
wrong. If Apple were to build Windows Machines ,they'd have dump their prices and compete with companies like Dell or HPaq. In no way can they justify their current pricing. Proffits will tumble, R&D expenses will be cut to minimal, and before you know it, Apple would be just another PC clone. B.Gates' dream come true.
RE:Apple computers that run Windows.
If Apple were to lower their costs, they would cheapen their product. Not physically but in the mind. Apple should be pricier than Windows boxes as they are special pieces of hardware, not just a box with circuitry. Like the iPod, this is high-end equipment that was designed to be more than just an mp3 player - it was an iPod. Macs are PowerMacs...This is what seperates computers from products or brands.
RichTestani
RE:Apple computers that run Windows.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
RE:Apple computers that run Windows.
While it may sound stupid it true in any market. You have a hi-end version and a low-end version. Regardless of wat I may be wearing, there are expensive t-shirt that are 25 or 35 dollars and the same quality shirt for 10 or 15 dollars. You are not all together buying a computer, you are buying a brand. It is sold to those people who can differenciate this. Don't tell me you buy all stop & shop (or what ever generic food market brand) and not any specific brands? You buy them cause it makes you feel good. Apple is no different - if everyone in the industry had there computers set to $1299 and looked the same, which would you buy? It does not matter.
Rich Testani http://www.apple-sauce.com
RE:Apple computers that run Windows.
Would you like some methadone? Those drugs you're on are strong!
An Apple that ran Windows natively...
Would be the death of Apple. Anyone remember IBM's OS/2? It ran Windows software "natively". The reason developers continued to make OS/2 versions of their software was.... well.... they didn't have any reason to develop OS/2 software. Why should they when they could just develop Windows software and OS/2 customers could run it just fine.
Apple computers that run Windows.
You got it BACKWARDS.
Apple computers that run Windows.
You are a damn idiot.
The newton
Rob, whats with you and newtons? did you use to own one and still use it or something?
The newton
Nope, but they were interesting machines ;-).
The newton
Hey, leave Rob alone.... 2.9% of us still love our Newton's! 8-)
The newton
That was before I voted too. While I love my iBook, it's still a bit large. I only gave up my Newton when the jaggies got too bad.
The newton
I'd die to get my hands on a Newton 2100. Remeber, these machines are still more powerful than a Palm and just recently got eclipsed by the Pocket PCs (to be fair, a pretty decent device, considering the darkness that they sprang from) about 2 years ago.
The newton
There is still a fairly active newton community out there, and a ready market for 2100's and others on ebay.
Apple is the "dumb blond" of the computer industry...
You know, "a great product, but an awful marketing department"...
Apple is the "dumb blond" of the computer industry...
I don't know if you're right... If a commercial gets people excited about the product, they'll find a way to buy it. www.apple.com would be my first guess if I had never heard of the product.
Apple is the "dumb blond" of the computer industry...
"Dumb blond"?
Speed and technology
Apple's recent success had come from innovation and the adoption of new technologies such as USB and Firewire well before other manufacturers. And of course it's the snazzy design. Nonetheless, I reckon Apple has been to slow to adopt USB2 and increasing its bus speeds. Plus with PPC chips 'appearing slower' than Intel chips (even though we know it's not true), it's a mental barrier that's becoming even harder to overcome to win over Windows users.
You Can't Lead and Follow at the Same Time
Apple excelles at innovation and delivering leading-edge technologies in an eay-to-use form. But its procesor speeds lag. It's a contradiction. Fix that, (and add a dash of less obtuse marketing), and the problem is solved. With a higher-powered processor (I'm thinking the new IBM chip in development), they could even bundle the machines with Virtual PC and most people could run their existing Windows appa and not notice the difference. (Okay, maybe 3D games would be a problem.) Stripped models will not please anyone. The eMac is about as low as Apple should go. Lower prices would be welcome (by me, anyway!), but are not the answer for Apple. Look at Gateway. Fighting like a mad dog for market share, and going broke in the process. Better to have a small but stable share of the market, and make money on every sale.
I still own and use a Newton.
Mine supports Wi-Fi, ATA RAM cards, plays mp3s, Word Processes, Web Browses and has the most kick-ass HWR ever...why shouldn't I still use it?
Newton/PDA
Why bring back the Newton? Well of course it would have to be a colour version with a higher resolution, but what is most important is that all the current PDAs, whatever OS, are too small. There exists a large market for someone to bring out a PDA with an A5 sized high-res screen, this would allow good page viewing/ebook capability, great form factor for writing documents, spreadsheets you can actually use, and the software could quite probably be the same as we're currently using on our Macs.
iPhone
"Something else" .. cause I'm still waiting for the iPhone ... why they dont put a little phone into the iPod?
What to do?
Honestly, what is there that they can do? There's no magic button that will instantly regain 15% of the market share. And no mater how often Windoze stumbles, there isn't a significant drop in the amount of people buying Windoze boxes. Joe Q. Public doesn't give a rat's @$$ about security, vulnerabilities, or exploits. And then, it's hard to compete with a cheap Dell. Sure Apple has the eMac, but if they're anything like the bubble-iMac, then they're low quality parts and a dubious quality computer. Apple is flashy, sexy, and expensive. I think they only thing Apple can keep doing is being flashy, sexy, and innovative. Maybe slowly the word will get out to the lowest common denominator that there is an alternative to a Windozecentric world. But then, do we want those folks running UNIX? Yikes.
Newton
I have, and still use a newton 2100 also. It's my second one, actually, as my first was stolen. It does all kinds of good stuff. Though, if I can find a way to afford a 12" PowerBook, the newton may lose some of it's pull to me...
Core Users
Really Apple needs to work on securing its traditional areas of dominance--education and graphics. Right now, Windows is killing them in terms of music, which is just wrong--creative folks should use Apples, dammit! Windows excels because of its dominance in business. This have leveraged it into schools (most law schools don't even support Macs anymore!). If people use a Windows box at work, they probably want the same setup at home and want to learn on it in school (as we all know, schools in the U.S. do not teach theory but are training camps for the business world now). Sorry, I am bitter. Education is now a Microsoft bastion and Apple needs to regain schools and creative areas before it can expect real converts. If they can start getting more corporate support for Macs (the big reason I may need to get a Windows box now is that at law school, many now have software that must be run to submit tests and this will not run in emulation as it is an anti-cheating measure). Now, if Apple could reduce the number of such products, it would fare far better. Here's to 10% market share in 2 years Apple!
And automatic CD upgrades
I agree with Noblee as far as regaining the education market but Apple
PDAs are not the way
I owned a Newton and it was awesome. And I don't care what the critics say, it recognized my handwriting just fine. In fact, that's the only feature I wish my Palm had, instead of that awful "Graffiti" - it's like taking a technological step backward. But I don't see how an Apple PDA could ever be a big seller. The iPod was a boon for Apple only because no one had (or has) a better portable mp3 player. But there are already too many PDAs out there for Apple to compete with. Palm has the el-cheapo market solid, and Microsoft has the pro-level high-dollar market locked. As for a larger, tablet-sized PDA? Well, Microsoft is already treading that ground and even they can't get people to buy into it.
Lifestyle
Companies spend millions upon millions on advertising. Most of these adverts concentrate on image and brand name, not product quality. Companies charge as much as they can. Supply and demand. Which is dependent on fashion. For example, every city has a 'fashionable' part which is much more expensive than other parts and the only reason it's like this is because people are willing to pay. They buy into a lifestyle. A friend of mine opened a furniture shop some years ago in a well-to-do part of London. His furniture was high quality, hand made, with some first class designs. He imported it from Eastern Europe and could sell it at the fraction of the price of comparable furniture. He hardly sold a thing for months. In desperation he hired a trouble shooter. The trouble shooter took a five minute walk around the neighborhood past the Rolls Royces and Ferraris and told my friend to close the shop, change the name and reopen with everything costing three times as much. This advice cost my friend 1500GBP. Seriously, I'm not making this up. He is now very happy with a very successful furniture business and a thorough understanding of what 'lifestyle product' means.
Oops
Oops, the 'Lifestyle' comment was supposed to be part of the 'Apples computers that run Windows' thread. Sorry.
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