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Which of the following is your preferred email application?
1/1: Which of the following is your preferred email application?
Other polls | 11,727 votes | 71 comments
Hotmail?
What about for those who use "Hotmail on the Web"?
Hotmail?
sorry.
Hotmail?
Mr. Obvious says: Then you would choose Other. :-D
I'd be happy to get you off Hotmail's paltry 250MB limit within one of my 99 free Gmail accounts.
Hotmail?
Hehe I don't use Hotmail. I was wondering for those who do :)
Hotmail?
I've had my hotmail account for several years, never had to worry about that limit yet! But I'm not a packrat of messages, I try to keep things low. Back when the limit was 2MB, I only ran up against that 2 or 3 times.
Hotmail?
Never heard of it. Is that a pr0n site? Shouldn't it be spelled "Hotmale?"
Why Apple's Mail.
One of the main things: it's better handling all kind of messages, with pictures, music, whatever. I get lots of newsletters, and in Entourage was a real pain, some with half pictures, or no pictures at all, or "strange font behavior".
Why Apple's Mail.
Apple mail has a huge problem handling digest list messages. Or more accurately, it can not handle them in the same manner Eudora can. Eudora can be configured (simply check a box) to treat digest messages as a mailbox. By doing this, it makes it really easy to reply to a message. I myself don't subscribe to digest versions, but those that do aare doing themselves a dis-service by not using Eudora.
Why Apple's Mail.
Pine handles all sorts of messages, too. If there are pictures, or fancy HTML formatting, or music, or anything else, it tells me that they're there, and then doesn't display them.
Why Apple's Mail.
Pine? But pine has that silly editor that has all these fancy, get-in-your-way control-commands. Elm is really the way to go, with vi configured as the editor. Kids these days, "pine," pshaw. [tongue firmly in cheek]
Why Apple's Mail.
To be serious for a moment, Pine does actually let you use an alternate editor of your choice instead of the default pico.
Entourage a close 2nd
I love Entourage but it seems outdated. My current favorite is Apple Mail which is just simple and reliable. Hopefully the next release of Entourage will break new ground.
Entourage a close 2nd
I love Entourage for a few reasons: 1) high degree of customization possible by AppleScript; 2) killer rules/filters (but could stand improvement); 3) Saved searches for custom viewing (e.g. "Received since launch" or "From or To John Doe"); tight integration with calendar, to do list, notes, and contacts; 4) Project Manager; 5) "online access" to POP accounts.
Weaknesses: can't create complex HTML messages (only simple ones); slow searching (improved now that Spotlight is integrated); no "format=flowed".
The current version is 2004; it is definitely outdated. I believe the new version will be dynamite, probably late this year or early next.
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Entourage a close 2nd
I don't know about CREATING complex HTML messages in Entourage (by all accounts ths doesn't seem possible), but just this week I came across a script (called "Send Complex HTML with Inline Files 2004" and widely available online) which allows you to embed existing comlex HTML pages into Entourage messages. A couple quick tests on my part have turned up no real problems...just the usual caveats to keep your HTML use simple...
Entourage a close 2nd
I just wish Entourage would provide better integration with Apple's AddressBook and iCal (especially). I use Entourage because of the better interface and a better set of mail handling rules. Hopefully Apple will improve Mail... I'd rather use it...
Entourage a close 2nd
With the latest Office update, the integration with Address Book and iCal is actually pretty good. My only complaint is that you can only sync one Entourage and iCal calendar (I would have liked to sync both my personal and work calendars).
Gmail at home, Kmail at job
Hi!
display problems w/ poll?
I'm wondering if anyone else is having this problem? Having dark-yellow bars against a blue background just does not show these poll results very well.
display problems w/ poll?
Maybe it only happens to those of us who use the classic theme.
display problems w/ poll?
I'll check the classic theme -- I didn't even look at the polls layout :)
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Yes, it is definitely a problem with the Classic theme.
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And now, it's fixed!
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I'm seeing dark green bars against a white background. What browser are you using? What Mac OS X Hints theme do you have selected in your preferences?
Favorite E-mail Client Poll
Sylpheed all the way (with PowerMail a close second).
mail in 10.3
I LOVED mail.app on 10.3. Something happened with imap support in 10.4, I think it had to do with the spotlight integration, that made imap on tiget mail w/ novell imap unusable. I've been using thunderbird lately, which does the job well. Just drives me nuts that mail is so bad in the imap situation.
mail in 10.3
Sorry for my ignorance, but what is imap support?
mail in 10.3
IMAP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP
mail in 10.3
I meant to mention that failing as well in my earlier reply. IMAP functionality is far better in Eudora. Heck even Thunderbird or Mozilla does it better.
mail in 10.3
When we upgraded to Service Pack 2 for Groupwise 6.5 all of those strange IMAP errors in 10.4 Mail disappeared.
Opera M2
I use Opera's built-in mail client (AKA M2). It's lacking in a few areas, but it's got GMail-like database views of e-mails with faster-than-spotlight search.
Go to next unread in Mail.app
Mail.app uses the same convention that's been around since almost the beginning of mail/news readers... the spacebar. Pressing the space bar on the keyboard will page you through an email, then take you to the next unread message in that mailbox.
Entourage Preferred; Not For Better Mail Handling
I've been using Mail.app for the past few years and decided to really give Entourage a try about a week and a half ago. Honestly, I think I like Mail.app better; but I like the integration between contacts, calendar, tasks, mail, and projects better in Entourage. There's some strange behavior in some messages in Entourage and I don't like the way it deals with images and attachments. Overall, however, I like the layout and integration better and think that I'll be sticking with Entourage for the foreseeable future.
Entourage Preferred; Not For Better Mail Handling
As a business advisor, I have a number of email accounts. Interesting thing though: I deal with my personal non-work email accounts using Apple Mail and work related ones using Entourage in MS Office 2004. In other words, Mail for the casual stuff and Entourage for the professional stuff. Reason is that I manage my professional client relationships as individual 'projects' in Entourage's Project Center (I really wish Apple would come up with something like this). It also helps when dealing with clients who use Outlook on WinDOS. This setup also helps me with GTD stuff (see http://www.davidco.com/store/catalog/GTD-and-Entourage-p-16209.php) by keeping me focused on 'work' when working...
Entourage Preferred; Not For Better Mail Handling
Have you tried setting up a GTD like system using iCal? Failing that I know there is a GTD setup for OmniOutliner Pro. It's called kinkless. Looked very interesting to me.
http://www.kinkless.com/
Entourage Preferred; Not For Better Mail Handling
I looked at both Kinkless and OmniOutliner some six months back. However, in January I got involved in reviewing the beta version of 'GTD for Entourage' (see the URL in my earlier posting) and now run a somewhat bastardised hybrid on my Mac. However, since posting my last comment, I revisited Daylite from Marketcircle (see: www.marketcircle.com) which I looked at some 18 months ago and I have to say that I am really impressed at how it's evolved to now include some sort of email integration (not sure with what though). I am now contemplating a quick test of that application.
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Entourage Preferred; Not For Better Mail Handling
I agree. I don't use Apple's Mail at all. I've tried each version, but I don't like the interface or the lack of powerful rules like those found in Entourage. Yes, Mail has some rules, but Entourage beats it. I think Apple should provide an interface for Mail like that in iTunes or iPhoto. I'd like to use Mail because of the better integration with other Apple programs (e.g. Address Book and iCal), but I can't make the switch until mail is improved. Right now I use Entourage for Address Book and iCal features.... (unfortunately...)
Eudora
Eudora has lightning fast searches, is fast in general, and handles multiple accounts very easily. Plus I can have separate mailboxes open in separate windows.
Eudora
Oh how could I forget! Multiple accounts! This is an awesome feature and it works really well! I use multiple accounts, multiple signatures and multiple stationery.
Eudora
All of those features and it is cross-platform so I don't have the hassle of learning three different email programs.
Eudora
Apple Mail is still not as fast as Eudora in general, but it certainly does allow viewing any mailbox in any window if you choose File > New Viewer Window and select a folder. I use that all the time, any number of windows you want. And since Apple Mail incorporated Spotlight, searches are now comparable to Eudora for my uses. I used Eudora faithfully for over a decade, but put up with Eudora's aging codebase and bewildering UI up until Tiger, when Apple Mail finally reached a state where I converted my mailboxes (use Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, not the built-in Mail converter) and abandoned Eudora forever. Now I am perfectly happy with Apple Mail and its integration with the rest of OS X, while Eudora languishes.
Eudora
Eudora's also the only app I know that hasn't gobbled up more and more screen real estate as time progressed and screens got bigger. There's no way I could keep the same amount of information (messages/mailboxes) open in Mail.app and still have half my screen unobscured for working with that information....
Integrated Address book
I use Apple Mail, which does the job just fine. I would switch to something better, but I have yet to find a mail client that transparently uses the OS address book. That's a show stopper for me.
Integrated Address book
Entourage syncs just fine with both Address Book and iCal, that was one of the updates in version 11.2.3.
SquirrelMail!
SquirrelMail is my mail of choice. I have my own domain and email with a virtually limitless amount of space. Of course if I could pay Apple for a domain name with ssh and php abilities, then I'd prefer the .Mac email interface, but, well, I don't use my .Mac mail, so I don't use the .Mac mail interface. My ISP offers Horde, SquirrelMail, and some other thing as webmail access, and SquirrelMail works for my needs.
SquirrelMail!
My ISP provides webmail via Squirrelmail, and it's a mixed bag for me. I use Mail.app for daily use, but sometimes (whenever away from home) I have to use it on the web.
GnuMail?
"GnuMail"? Do you mean Gnus?
GnuMail?
No, GNUMail.app.
I have not found one that does all I want
I use Apple Mail because it does a lot of what I want it to do and it does it well. It is far from perfect. It handles media files well most of the time, it displays HTML based mail very well. It is very easy to use. It handles my regular mail accounts, my dotmac account and checks mail from all my gmail accounts.
I have not found one that does all I want
"If I delete gmail messages they are not delete from my gmail account."
Horde/Imp
I use Horde/Imp on a day-to-day basis because I can use it from anywhere and it has nice GPG/S\MIME integration.
Horde/Imp
"I also need to be able to alter my from-address at will since I use different aliases for different purposes..thats why I never bothered with mail.app."
Apple Mail can do this. Mail > Preferences >Accounts > Account Information just add the extra email addresses on to the 'email address' line, separated by commas. They'll be available the next time you compose/reply in a drop down box (copied from http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2112595).
Wot? Where's Claris Emailer?
Oh well. Guess we're the 1.23 % "Other" then!
Lotus Notes?
OK, it's not my "favorite" but it IS the one I use. Am I completely alone in using Notes on a Mac?
No Mozilla/SeaMonkey?
There are a lot of us out here who like an integrated browser/email client, otherwise Seamonkey wouldn't be a project.
Entourage
I use Entourage for my Mac. I am on an exchange server and use a direct push for my email, contacts, tasks, and appointments between multiple computers and my pocketpc phone. It is the only solution I have found that integrates those items and plays relatively well with XP, OS X and Windows Mobile, and keeps all of those devices\computers in sync.
Thunderbird Forever
Why you say? I've tried Apple Mail and Mailsmith (and a few others) and they just can't cut it for me. First of all, I'm in the "e-mail is supposed to be plain text" camp. I detest html e-mail. That brings me to the number one flaw in Apple Mail. Apple Mail Problems
Mailsmith Problems
Why Thunderbird Rocks
Basically, you can turn it into the mail client you want it to be.
Thunderbird Forever
I can't address your other Apple Mail issues (and I must say that it has enough quirks to keep me from using it as my default mailer), but you can set it to show plain text by default:
Thunderbird Forever
I have tried this setting. However, when someone sends HTML e-mail, it defaults to the html content rather than the plain text. I have no idea why.
Thunderbird Forever
You say
Apple Mail Problems Well Mail.app does support GnuPG from MailPG (or something similar, look on macupdate), which is a simple extension so I don't believe this is a fair point. Not to talk about the fact that you don't look at Thundermail's problem, which are very similar to Firefox. For example: the lack of mac integration (no keychain, services, etc), slugish and kinda ruff. On a side note As far as webmail goes... I do like gmail, but Roundcube looks very promising and isn't a separate email service, which I find better as I can continue to use my exisiting imap account. It'd be nice if gmail allowed you to use their interface for external pop/imap accounts (although, I'm not I do trust them ;o)---
Thunderbird Forever and Whereever
Thunderbird to access the same mailbox under Linux/ppc and Mac OSX on my dualboot iBook and even across the network under i686/Linux and i686/Windows.
Groupwise 7 missing
I prefer Entourage, but Groupwise 7 looks very nice for Novell environments. Groupwise 6 was awful.
What about an email service poll?
I guess it's sort of implied with gmail and others, but still. What email services do we all use. Sure, there's the employer's or school's email, but I'm sure most of us have non-work emails.
Gyaz
I use GyazMail. It has a simple and easy interface. There is just one thing and Mail, to my mind, has the same problem: the way these handle partial downloads of large emails. Don't get me wrong, I reeeally like Apple's Mail. What puts me off is the way it informs the user that there is a big message (over the prescribed size that the user specified in Preferences/Accounts/Advanced) on the server, Do you want to download dialogue box etc. The way this is implemented, you have to sit with Mail and make a decision with the dialogue box, or else it downloads the message anyway? Gyaz uses the combined message ****The Result of Filtereing**** to show all large mails on the server. You then have to go to the Remote folder to organise whet to download or delete. I have to say that Entourage has the method of handling this sort of setup with the extra column in the message list with broken envelope icons.
Mulberry
... and looking at the alternatives, it still seems as if this won't change so soon. But there is hope.
Re: Mulberry
All things considered, Mulberry is/was my favorite IMAP MUA. I switched to Mail after the ISAMET/Cyrusoft bankruptcy and it'll probably remain my primary OS X MUA until there's a more satisfying alternative. Even with many shortcomings, Mail is still the most preferable and usable for me compared to other choices.
Mail.app as there is nothing better ...
Using Mail.app but have been looking for a replacement since 10.0 ....
New IMAP Client
I am working on a new IMAP client, hopefully it will be listed on the next poll :) If you curious you can find out more about the client at Kiwi
IMAP and Gmail?
I would LOVE to get a new account for personal use (my old one is compromised with spam), and Gmail looks great. I also want to keep using Apple's Mail.app for all my accounts, from TWO different computers. Unfortunately, Gmail doesn't support IMAP so although I could *check* my Gmail from any of my Macs with Mail.app, the fact that I have to use POP to do so makes mail management way too tedious.
they All sux..sorta
I dont like the way mailapp and entrorage run the mail store...but i use them each for things they do better. I use Thunderbird mostly.
Used to be Eudora, now Mail.app for lack of anything better
I loved Eudora and was a devout user for around 10 years. Just this past winter, I finally got fed up with not being able to read the majority of the HTML emails I was starting to recieve... from other people in my own company no less.
Entourage, but...
I like Apple's Mail a lot, but stopped using it because it didn't display HTML formatted mail constantly. I haven't used the Tiger version, which is probably better, because I've been using Entourage for a while now. |
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