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2004 Re-Polling: How often do you use Classic?

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Constantly; it starts at login 48 (2.15%)
Several times a day 59 (2.64%)
About once a day 38 (1.70%)
A few times a week 100 (4.47%)
A few times a month 188 (8.41%)
Very very rarely 575 (25.72%)
I don't use it any more at all 897 (40.12%)
I have *never* used Classic 331 (14.80%)
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Yes, this is a re-polling...
Authored by: robg on Mar 22, '04 01:28:42PM
It was nearly exactly a year ago that I asked this question for the first time. The final results in April of 2003 indicated that roughly 33% of you didn't use Classic any more, 30% used it "very rarely", and 11% of you had never used Classic.

So in the last 12 months, what's happened to the other 25%? Has your Classic use declined? Stayed the same? Gone up? How much longer will Classic be around for those of you who need it?

-rob.

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Classic is for Office
Authored by: jhaffner on Mar 22, '04 05:56:23PM

I primarily use Classic for Office 2001. I haven't seen any compelling reason to upgrade to Office X/2003/whatever in a long time. Even then, I only open those applications a couple of times a week.

Every once in a while I'll fire up an Adobe application (Photoshop, Illustrator), but not as a regular occurrence.

My classic use has declined, but not dramatically. Eventually, we'll get around to upgrading Office, but probably not until we're forced to do so by the OS.



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Yes, this is a re-polling...
Authored by: maclives on Mar 23, '04 01:01:04AM

I have Entourage 2001. What else can I do but run Classic? I don't want to give MSFT any more $ for it.



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Yes, this is a re-polling...
Authored by: peterjhill on Mar 23, '04 04:03:41PM

I do not have it installed on my laptop. It is on my desktop in case I want to play a reallllly old game.



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Yes, this is a re-polling...
Authored by: Ian Downie on Mar 23, '04 05:22:41PM

At work, I now have no Classic applications I use regularly, though I sometimes use GoLive 5.0 as my University is converting people to PCs by giving them new ones and providing Dreamweaver MX for the PC, and I don't have anything else for website maintenance on my PowerMac G4. I don't start up Classic on booting the machine as I usually do web editing on the PC.

At home, I use Gene for family history and, though a MacOS X version is promised, it's still not here. So my home machine starts up loading Classic as I use the program all the time. That's been the position ever since I moved to MacOS X.



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Yes, this is a re-polling...
Authored by: BlakeyRat on Mar 23, '04 07:04:02PM
Well, as long as Rapscallion remains the only decent (and non-alpha) MUD client for MacOS, I'm stuck using Classic all day every day.

The author has promised to release the source to it (see www.rapscallion.co.uk), but that website's said "Soon. Honest." for months and I'm not holding my breath for it. (Grah! Andy, it's GREAT that you released Rapscallion for free but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE open up the source so we can get a decent MUD client on OS X!)

Anyway, I'd love to trash Classic, but it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

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Yes, this is a re-polling...
Authored by: tonyo on Mar 24, '04 07:40:44PM
I honestly can't remember the last time I used classic on either of my main workstations. I do have an old pb5300 running 8.6 that gets used rarely for numbering press sheets, but that's it.

That said, the only app i use when I do use classic is Cruciverbalist, a crossword layout program. My usage of the program is driven by free time, so it's no wonder that I rarely use classic! :) In fact, I may move the program onto the laptop so I can sit out on the porch and make my crosswords!

Just checked : last fired up Cruciverbalist on 12/23/2004. Free time, where are you? Tony

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Yes, this is a re-polling...
Authored by: Han Solo on Mar 25, '04 06:13:00PM
Just checked : last fired up Cruciverbalist on 12/23/2004. Free time, where are you?

Having a little trouble with the Date & Time setting on your Mac, are you...? ;)

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Too many interesting legacy apps
Authored by: bedouin on Mar 22, '04 03:19:59PM

I bought my first Mac in 2002, so I've never used OS 9 thoroughly. I'm familiar enough with classic to troubleshoot some minor problems, but overall, not a fan.

Saying that though, I'd hate to see classic compatibility go in OS X. As someone who's getting into teaching, I've found a ton of interesting educational programs from the early-mid nineties that have no OS X equivalents.



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Reason to keep Classic
Authored by: Makosuke on Mar 22, '04 05:00:44PM

I expect Apple will keep classic around for a while yet (at least, I hope they will), since it still has uses. Aside from those old apps that are dead but not forgotten, there are a handful of folks with, say, a copy of Photoshop 5 who're too cheap to upgrade it despite the fact that they're running OSX.

Personally, I almost never launch Classic anymore, but I find it quite useful for web browser compatibility testing. Yes, I'm happy with my G5 and latest versions of Mozilla or Safari, but there are still an unfortunate number of Netscape 4 users out there (hovering somewhere around 1% last I checked), and if your site is popular with non-cutting-edge Mac users, there are a surprising number of people with an early PPC machine still using NS4 (why they don't upgrade to IE5, I don't know). So, it's nice to be able to fire up NS 4 and see just how ugly my site looks in it.

I'm no longer going out of my way to make things look particularly *nice*, but basic functionality with a minimum of painfully ugly is a nice bone to throw those poor fools.



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Classic and my scanner
Authored by: KRC on Mar 22, '04 09:38:09PM

There's only one reason why I still use classic and that's because UMAX is too incompetent to build native OSX driver software for my scanner. It is an Astra 4450 and I have to use the Classic scanning software just to use it. Unfortunately, according to the VueScan website: "All UMAX USB models except 3400 (some versions), 5400 and PowerLook 180" is unsupported so that doesn't help much and SANE doesn't like my scanner either so I'm pretty much stuck in Classic world until 1) UMAX releases some OSX stuff or 2) I buy a new scanner ... looks like it might be the 2nd choice but that's not going to happen for about a year or so. Bleh ...



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Classic and my scanner
Authored by: davidbodonnell on Mar 23, '04 02:44:27PM

Have you looked at VueScan? Two of my clients were able to carry their ageing UMAX SCSI scanners forward into Mac OS X with that software.



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Classic and my scanner
Authored by: KRC on Mar 25, '04 12:49:43PM

Yup ... just did... downloaded it, installed it, tried it ... doesn't work. The Apple Profiler knows the scanner is there but VueScan won't pick it up. I think it's because the scanner is a USB scanner instead of a SCSI. For some weird reason or another, most UMAX USB scanners won't work with it ... beats me why ...



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Classic and my scanner
Authored by: thelamecamel on Mar 28, '04 07:26:25AM

I think some of the USB UMAX Astras are really serial-based, they just have USB tacked on the outside, and this is why VueScan doesn't work. Quite annoying, really.



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Classic and my scanner
Authored by: mrpresident47 on Mar 29, '04 12:49:48AM

yup. you nailed it. i have the same scanner and it is serial on the inside converted to usb at plug-in port.

mike



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Outlook 2001. That's why. [n/t]
Authored by: dzurn on Mar 23, '04 03:28:36PM

[n/t]

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No OS 9 Install
Authored by: jesboat on Mar 23, '04 04:19:01PM

The past few instalations of OS X have been classic-free. This includes
-Jaguar clean install on old laptop
-Panther clean install on old laptop
-Pather on new laptop

I ran into a minor snag when I tried to install AppleWorks (old laptop) and found the installer required classic. Install classic just to run an installer for a program that doesn't require classic (post-update)? I ended up borrowing the OS X DMG from a friend's eMac CDs. O'course, I haven't used AppleWorks more than twice since then...

Other than that, I haven't even thought of classic!

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No classic, but "true" os9
Authored by: nite77 on Mar 24, '04 11:29:58AM

Once in awhile I boot into 9.2.2 still. (mostly testing things) and I do have one 7200/200 604e machine installed with 9.2.2 with os9forever.com's help. So, no "Classic" but I do still run os9 and use it occasionally. The 7500 is primarily a DNS server.

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No classic, but "true" os9
Authored by: unforeseen:X11 on Mar 25, '04 12:18:12PM

same to me, I _NEVER_ use(d) Classic, but boot into OS 9 from time to time, but just to play all my games like UT and DeusEx - Gaming on OS 9 is still much much better than under OS X.



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Not Classic, but "true" OS 9
Authored by: The Apple Doctor on Mar 27, '04 08:48:48AM
It's been quite awhile since I've used Classic, but I keep a small drive loaded with OS 9 just for some of the 'good old' games... and PlusOptimizer. For the really old games I have an LCIII with an Apple IIe card, and a 'Woz sig' IIGS. ;)

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As time goes by...
Authored by: Juneappal on Mar 24, '04 08:35:14PM


<lightheartedly> I notice that the last time you asked, 11% of us had *never* used classic. Now 14.4% of us haven't ever used it. As time goes by..........

p.s. - FWIW I hadn't ever used it the first time around, and I still haven't.

My mom on the other hand, used to use it every day and now she never has.



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As time goes by...
Authored by: robg on Mar 25, '04 01:25:55PM

Well, in that year's time, we've added something like 20,000 'free account' registered users, and probably 2x that number of anon guests, so it's quite possible that the percentages have changed.

It makes some sense to me that the percentage of "never" would go up over time -- newer OS X users are probably less likely to use Classic if they're new to the Mac, for instance.

-rob.



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I don't use it, but my kids do
Authored by: sjonke on Mar 26, '04 11:54:18AM

I never use classic any more and haven't for a long time, but my 3 and 1 year old use classic fairly frequently to run some of their games. There aren't a lot choices in games for their age group, and such games pretty much never get updated.

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ATM/ATR still rule the platform
Authored by: cudaboy_71 on Mar 26, '04 12:48:05PM

on my 'work' machine, i still use it daily because i still prefer Freehand 8 to 10, and my ATM/ATR still work in classic. Same for QuarkXpress 4.1. Type reunion (for me) is worth the toll it takes (running classic/semi-frequent crashes) on my otherwise X-only system.

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