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Browser Wars #4 ... Which OS X web browser do you use most often?

1/1: Browser Wars #4 ... Which OS X web browser do you use most often?

Camino 144 (4.60%)
iCab 23 (0.73%)
Internet Explorer 56 (1.79%)
links or lynx 9 (0.29%)
Mozilla 193 (6.16%)
Netscape 18 (0.57%)
OmniWeb 35 (1.12%)
Opera 16 (0.51%)
Safari 2,595 (82.85%)
Bumper Car 6 (0.19%)
Other 37 (1.18%)
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Time for yet another look...
Authored by: robg on Feb 03, '04 04:26:57PM
This is the fourth browser poll we've run:
  1. January 2001
  2. June 2002
  3. February 2003
Clearly, the release of Safari had a major impact on OS X users' browser of choice! It will be interesting to see what OmniWeb 5.0 does to the landscape (pros: cool features, WebKit rendering; cons: costs money) in the months to come...

-rob.

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Time for yet another look...
Authored by: libra12 on Feb 04, '04 11:03:47PM

i love camino web browser



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Time for yet another look...
Authored by: roncross@cox.net on Feb 11, '04 01:34:01AM

I have a simple question. With all of the free browsers out there, why would anyone want to pay for Omniweb? They have a free download, but what would be the motivation for purchasing a license? I don't see the logic.
Is Omniweb that much better than all the free browsers that they can make money off of it by asking people to purchase a license for using it.


thx
Ronald Cross

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Time for yet another look...
Authored by: robg on Feb 11, '04 11:57:09AM

Two reasons: one, it offers features that you think are worth paying for. Two, you want to support an OS X vendor who has written some great stuff for the platform. I used reason number two when I paid for one of the early versions ... I may pay for the new 5.0 once it goes final and I've had a chance to play with it to see what it offers.

-rob.



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Thunderbird
Authored by: tollie on Feb 04, '04 02:45:30AM

Should [Mozilla] Thunderbird be listed as a separate choice, as it's unclear what is meant by Mozilla?



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Thunderbird
Authored by: itistoday on Feb 04, '04 05:11:42PM

They're essentially the same thing. Mozilla's plan is to separate it's various components (Web, Email, etc) into separate applications. Mozilla web is Firebird, and email has is now Thunderbird. They use essentially identical code however.



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Thunderbird
Authored by: robg on Feb 04, '04 06:44:34PM

Technically, I probably should have split Mozilla (old integrated browser/etc) from Firebird (new browser-only). However, they're all Mozilla products, and as can be seen so far, usage is quite low ...

-rob.



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You mean Firebird
Authored by: John_Blaze on Feb 05, '04 12:55:19PM

Safari is great don't get me wrong... it's just that Firebird has more features in it and pages are viewed more correctly. Plus, Safari's slow bookmarks bother me as I use them all the time.

I give Apple until version 2.0 and maybe I'll start using it more.



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Thunderbird
Authored by: Rob23UConn on Feb 05, '04 04:41:55PM

Thunderbird is not Mozilla's web client, it is their email client. Instead, Firebird is their web client.

Personally, I use Safari, Omniweb and Firebird...

My order is as follows:

OmniWeb
Safari
Firebird



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OmniWeb
Authored by: ahbe on Feb 04, '04 01:42:45PM

Well, at the moment I use mostly Safari, with Mozilla mixed in there for flavor. However the new OmniWeb 5 beta is looking awfully nice. Once the bugs are fixed, I can see OmniWeb 5 taking a significant share of the market. I wouldn't mind paying for a quality browser. I had looked at OmniWeb in the past, but the lack of tabs made it unusable for me. OmniWeb 5 has fixed all that, and then some. The new bookmarks organizer is also very slick. I'd like to see this poll again in another 6 months to a year. I bet it will be allot different.



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OmniWeb
Authored by: bipto on Feb 05, '04 04:10:05PM

Ditto! I paid for OmniWeb way back when (before Chimera which was my browser of choice before Safari came out). After a few minutes with OmniWeb 5 (before it crashed :) ) I saw it was going to be a player again! Can't wait for the final...or at least a more stable beta!



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Firebird missing
Authored by: Bookman on Feb 06, '04 02:50:07AM

Mozilla and Mozilla Firebird are distinct browsers and should have had separate listings in the poll (if you're going to break out Camino, you should break out Firebird as well). Firebird is my second choice, and it's a close second at that. I end up using Safari most because that's where all of my bookmarks are, and I'm too lazy to export them frequently with Safari Bookmark Exporter. The ONLY reason I use IE is for its superior print preview features.

--Books



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Firebird missing
Authored by: Radha Venkat on Feb 07, '04 01:19:06PM

Firebird is also my browser of choice (I went with "other"). I can't live without Mouse Gestures and AdBlock.

- Radha



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Re: Browser Wars
Authored by: olwylee on Feb 06, '04 06:21:11PM

I still perfer Camino over Safari, however, The recent beta release of Safari is showing that Apple is putting at least some effort into making it better.

Safari still has a problem handling some CSS2 as well as problems connecting to some secure sites. Camino is still by far faster and with recent updates in the nightly builds it has become even more stable.

For a stock OS included browser Safari is hands down better than IE but for the mean time I will continue to use Camino as my browser of choice.

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"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa

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SAFARI!
Authored by: adrick42 on Feb 06, '04 06:45:19PM
SAFARI, SAFARI, SAFARI... and only Safari! As a developer, I haven't seen a browser render truer to the actual CSS standards. Ok, Omniweb 5 (beta) looks like it will best Safari in features, but it doesn' t seem as fast right now.

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If we do not ever take time, how can we ever have time?

The Merovingian -- 

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safari v netscape
Authored by: kornbrot on Feb 08, '04 06:18:37AM

I use SAFARI becuase just updated to osX panther and that is recommendation
most things work well - although not noticably better than NETSCAPE
BUT
1. NETSCAPE has an html composer that is very convenient and easy to use
2. My UK bank will NOT support SAFARI, because they think it is a security risk in an internet cafe, as it does not securely clear the cache after each logoff (or something like that)
so MUST have NETSCAPE as well
3. the autofill forms sometimes sulks & says it can't fill anything



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mozilla praise with quick question
Authored by: mlnc248 on Feb 09, '04 01:21:48PM

I use Mozilla 1.6 and love it. Very few crashes and/or freezes. I'm actually dissappointed that more people aren't using it. I hope the good development work continues.

I tried Safari but it doesn't work with my secure Fidelity acounts while Mozilla does. I won't even think about switching until Safari can do that.

Haven't opened IE for months and months.

One quick question, I recently visited a site which would not let me in with Mozilla, it said I needed Netscape version 4.7 or higher to view the page.

How does a browser identify itself and more importantly is there a preference that we can use to change it?



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mozilla praise with quick question
Authored by: Eukaryote on Feb 09, '04 02:23:33PM

There is a hint in here somewhere that lets you change its identifier... Search the archives... Sorry I'm too lazy to send a link.



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Bumper Car???
Authored by: asan102 on Feb 10, '04 06:26:00PM

What on Earth is Bumper Car? I've never heard of it, and I can't find anything about it on google either.



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Bumper Car???
Authored by: robg on Feb 11, '04 12:37:36AM
It's a child-safe web browser from Freeverse Software:

Bumper Car

I included it mainly as a lark :)

-rob.

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