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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll

1/1: When will you be installing Mountain Lion on your main Mac?

I already have 474 (19.16%)
The day it is released 712 (28.78%)
A week or two after release 505 (20.41%)
A month or more after release 394 (15.93%)
The next time I get a new Mac 257 (10.39%)
Never 132 (5.34%)
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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: dmackler on Jul 24, '12 08:22:03AM

My choice is made for me. I have an original Mac Pro. Other than the "hackintosh" methods, this old box is stuck at Lion. I cannot complain, we've had a nice journey all the way from Tiger.

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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: alexclst on Jul 24, '12 08:34:41AM

I plan to install Mountain Lion the day it is released (tomorrow?), but it is good to note that is only after making a full, bootable, backup of my MacBook Pro (which I do weekly, but will do right before download/installation of OS X 10.8 for sure). I've also read a lot about the OS over the past few weeks, so I'm not installing the OS "blind" so to speak. Both things, bootable backup and reading what you can on the OS (try AppleInsider's "Inside OS X Mountain Lion" posts as well as the Apple website), are important to do before taking the dive into a major OS upgrade, especially if you'll be doing it the day it is released.



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: michelle_eris on Jul 24, '12 08:38:53AM

I have a late 2006 iMac, which is the newest iMac that cannot run Mountain Lion, so I am forced to wait to get ML until I get a new Mac. And that will be when the next model of the iMac is available.



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: Helge33 on Jul 24, '12 08:52:30AM

Since Snow Leopard there where no really interesting new features in OSX. As Apple is now heading for iOS/OSX merge, follow the cloud hype and no longer interested in classical desktop apps like the Finder (still a lot to improve here) there is no need for any update... until the day where I am forced by new hardware.



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Agreed, but the cost is so cheap
Authored by: lullabud on Jul 24, '12 09:37:15AM

I agree that these recent updates have been very minor and are definitely not must-have updates. However, with the cost being less than many video games and productivity apps, it's worth considering for the conveniences it offers: twitter / facebook / flickr integration, notification center, messages (whose beta will expire very soon), encrypted disks, better remote desktop, airplay mirroring, automatic app updates, multiple time machine targets, etc..

Then again, there are the inconveniences, like the sandboxing (which can be disabled if it gets in the way too much), the moving away from apache and samba, etc.. Finder is still meh, full screen apps still take up one of multiple monitors.

So, yeah, it's a toss up.



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Reasons...
Authored by: gidds on Jul 24, '12 12:22:18PM

In my case, reasons not to upgrade from Snow Leopard include:

  • I still rely on Rosetta for loads of apps and programs. (Some would cost megapounds to upgrade, and some aren't supported.)
  • I'd hate AutoSave.
  • I hate full-screen.
  • I use Exposť and Spaces all the time.
  • I rely on visible scrollbars to contextualise window content.

Reasons to upgrade:

  • ...er...

Also, I disagree with how the platform is slowly but surely being turned into a walled garden. As a power user and occasional developer, I fear that my long-term future is more likely to be with Linux than Mac OS X. :-(

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Reasons...
Authored by: leamanc on Jul 24, '12 02:07:21PM

Rosetta is a good reason to stay on Snow Leopard, if you need it and can't afford to upgrade, or don't have any alternatives. As for the rest:

Auto-save can be disabled, with Save As... returned. The hint is here on this site.
You don't have to use full screen. Ever.
With Mission Control, you can use Expose and Spaces at the same time. Seriously, it's just both of those features combined into one.
Visible, "always on" scrollbars can be turned on in System Prefs->General.
I assume you mean Gatekeeper when talking about the walled garden. It's not there at all in Lion (just like Snow Leopard), and can be turned off completely in Mountain Lion.

Now are you sure you need those old PPC apps? :-)



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Agreed, but the cost is so cheap
Authored by: jeremyp on Jul 27, '12 10:41:43AM

Apache is still there and there's a launchdaemon plist for it. It's just the preference option to start it has gone. I've no idea why they would do that.



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: jralls on Jul 24, '12 10:15:45AM

I had to get a new mini to do it, but we (Gtk) got caught last summer when Lion came out and Gtk crashed because we hadn't done enough testing on the dev previews. Not going to make that mistake again!



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: interlard on Jul 24, '12 10:27:02AM

The MacBook Air I use for work can have it. It's already running Lion so I'm used to all the things Apple broke in Lion to stay broken (Exposť, Finder window zoom, etc); and I'll be glad to get Save As back. My main iMac at home will probably stay with Snow Leopard, mainly because I have a few PowerPC apps that I don't want to pay to upgrade (eg, MS Office).



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: fyngyrz on Jul 24, '12 10:44:26AM

I don't think it's a good idea to encourage Apple's new direction towards walling in OSX. Sandbox, certificates, app store apps only defaults... these just don't jive with my idea of what a computer is supposed to be, or the degree to which it has typically empowered its users.

Also, the new full screen mode is a real non-starter -- I have six monitors. They completely blew that one.

Finally, Snow Leopard, while imperfect, works reasonably well. I think I'll just hang back.

I'll also continue developing apps for Leopard as the base platform. At some point, you just have to learn to stop grabbing at every shiny new API.

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Depends
Authored by: Westside guy on Jul 24, '12 11:37:41AM

I want to see what Mountain Lion brings to the table. Lion was underwhelming, and while I tried it (and so got counted as one of the upgraders Apple likes to talk about) I quickly rolled back to Snow Leopard on my personal laptop. Because of my disappointment with Lion, I haven't actually paid much attention to Mountain Lion development.

My work machine is on Lion simply because I didn't want the bother of rolling it back. Versions drove me to decide to stop using iWork, though - I went back to MS Office. Pixelmator too - I used to use it for 80% of what I needed to do with images, but it only does versions/autosave so I went back to a 100% Photoshop workflow (which I have a love/hate relationship with). I really hate Apple's versioning and autolocking - it doesn't "just work", it just gets in my way.



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: astack on Jul 24, '12 12:32:44PM
I want to stay as far away from Mountain Lion as I can get. I am not going to get what I want however: I have to use a macbook air for work that came with Lion on it and you can't install snow leopard without doing some tricks (I have not attempted to do so since the laptop is for work). However, of the five other computers I manage at home or at work that I currently use, I have upgraded none to Lion and am still using Snow Leopard.

I have been warned that Apple will be dropping support for Snow Leopard soon, I will be forced to upgrade the work computers to a supported OS, which means Lion or Mountain Lion. For every step forward in Lion, there is a step backward because in several cases they took functionality that was useful and not broken and "fixed" it by replacing it with a fancier method that wasn't as useful. My personal annoyances include: "save as" vs. duplicate, ical (need I say more?), pointless animations in the Finder and other apps, and the ridiculous scroll bars. But everyone else has their list of grievances with Lion as well...

My further problem is that I don't see anything in Mountain Lion that fixes these, except by at least including the key combination for save as again. Beyond that, I see little benefit to upgrading. I am not a happy Apple customer right now.
Edited on Jul 24, '12 12:44:32PM by astack


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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: pglock on Jul 24, '12 12:34:35PM

Thought I'd try out 10.8 server to see if it is worth upgrading from Lion Server. The much improved wiki and profile management have me convinced to upgrade our production servers once after the dust settles.

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Never say never...
Authored by: astack on Jul 24, '12 03:24:36PM
I was interested in whether the impressions about 10.8 are less or more popular than other OS X releases. I couldn't find a poll for 10.6 (and I don't think the site was up yet for 10.0), but here are the other years results for people who said the most negative option in the "will you upgrade 10.X" polls that I could find:

10.8: 3.67% (As of 1827 EST, 07/24/12)

10.7: 18.7% (this is "no, because it breaks too many apps")

10.5: 0.81%

10.4: 1.06%

10.3: 3.05% (this is combination of "switch to XP" and "never")

10.2: 3.12% (this is "wait for 10.3" option)

10.1: 8.53% (this is just "no" not "never")


Based on this highly unscientific poll, I conclude that the largest portion of Mac OS X Hints readers in a decade either think that Apple has jumped the shark with the last two OSes or that 10.6 is good enough... I suspect the 10.8 number would be higher, but some people who are stuck with lion are hoping that things will get better with mountain lion.

I'm a little shocked at the 10.7 number, proportionally fewer people who were using OS 9 or 10.0 felt that upgrading to 10.1 would be worse than upgrading to 10.7. Wow.

(I'll try to update this comment with more current totals as voting progresses on 10.8.)
Edited on Jul 24, '12 03:27:31PM by astack


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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: aca on Jul 24, '12 05:03:01PM

Apple made the decision for meó I have an original (Mar 2006) MBP, so I'm forever stuck at Snow Leopard, never to become a Lion of any flavor...



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: Milliways2 on Jul 24, '12 05:49:52PM

Frankly I am underwhelmed by what ML appears to offer.
About the only plus is that it will fix a few of the Lion "enhancements".

I will probably do what I did for LIon. Wait for 10.8.3 and then install in a separate partition to give it a try. I will be dumping my SL partition, as I haven't needed it for a couple of months.



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: paulbrainerd on Jul 25, '12 02:34:10PM

I'll keep my Mac Mini with SL. It's my idisk on the road and does double duty as a home media server running Plex. It does what it needs to do quite well. As for my MacBook Pro, I've been testing Mountain Lion the last few months. I'm impressed with whats gone on under the hood. Super clean & fast. Love the Time Machine dual and sparse network backups. Message (share sheets) integration. Cloud & iWork perform across platform as promised. I'm still not happy with the linear approach to desktop management since SL. Gruber has a great write up over at Daring Fireball.



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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: DavidRavenMoon on Jul 30, '12 08:10:42AM

I upgraded to Mountain Lion from Lion the day it was released. I'm not sure why there are so many people who want to stay on Snow Leopard. Sorry, but Lion kicked its butt. Mountain Lion is a step up from Lion. The whole system is faster and smoother, and FINALY, the Finder works as it should have been working. It no longer takes minutes to draw in the contents of a folder.

I read concerns from people, like about some of the new features which their perceive as Apple turning OS X into iOS. iOS is a flavor of OS X, but made for a touch screen. It also lacks a real file system. All Apple is doing is bringing over some cool features from iOS. I saw enough to like about Lion that I upgraded the day it came out, and got myself a magic Trackpad to use the gestures.

Regarding AutoSave, it's not a problem, but then I don't use iWork. What I do like about it is I can make a new a TextEdit document and it will be persistent across restarts. It wont be saved until I save it. I was using that for notes, but now I use the new Notes app in ML. For new documents, Autosave is great. And you wont ever lose work because of a power outage or the rare times your Mac might lock up.

Safari 6 is blazing fast. I was starting to get fed up with the last few versions. You can't run Safari 6 on SL. Two annoyances with Safari 6 are the lack of RSS feeds, and no way to change your font. I fixed both of these easily though. I downloaded the free NetNewsWire app for RSS feeds, and the Quickstyle extension for Safari, which allows you to set CSS info for web sites. So far I have only needed it on MacInTouch to change Times to Verdana.

There's a lot of stuff to like about Lion and Mountain Lion. It didn't break a single app, and if I don't go looking for it I'd be hard press to know I'm not on Lion, or even Snow Leopard. ML also lets you turn off Autosave and a few other things some people don't seem to care for. And this is on an Early 2009 iMac with a Core2Duo CPU... not the latest and greatest. Time marches on. Do you really want to keep using a 4 year old OS?

For me it was well worth the $20 because my Mac is snappier now.

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iMac 2.93 GHz Core 2 Duo, 8GB, 1TB, Mac OS X 10.8
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The Obligatory Mountain Lion Poll
Authored by: ms_t_rie on Jul 30, '12 03:30:51PM

Since I still have to use the Cisco VPN to connect to work, I can't go to Lion unless I want to spend money on a 64-bit client that supports Cisco. The built-in client does not work with our type of VPN. (yes, I have researched it and it's a consensus on all forums I found)

I like that Snow Leopard is mostly 64-bit, but can have a 32-bit kernel, so that the VPN and other things that I use that are 32-bit continue to work without issues.

Since it's not broken, why fix it?



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