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1/2: How often do you use Spaces?

Regularly - it's essential! 2,089 (33.74%)
Quite often - many times a day 679 (10.97%)
A few times a week 422 (6.82%)
Rarely 848 (13.70%)
Never 2,153 (34.78%)

2/2: How often do you use Exposé?

Regularly - it's essential! 2,760 (44.58%)
Quite often - many times a day 1,127 (18.20%)
A few times a week 812 (13.12%)
Rarely 908 (14.67%)
Never 584 (9.43%)
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Authored by: Mac Berry on Apr 16, '10 08:05:09AM

I use Spaces only to separate OS's (OS X, Windows via RDC, and Windows in Parallels), but Expose all the time. I do both using hot corners though, never the keyboard, because I'm quite mouse centric.

I will never understand why Apple haven't yet implemented what seems like a very obvious Expose feature to me. Invoke Expose, and click on a little cross in the top left of a window to close it, exactly like managing Widgets in Dashboard. And/or right click to get some options for that window/app.

With that, Expose would become the perfect task manager IMHO.

Mark



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Authored by: robogobo on Apr 16, '10 04:28:02PM

If you're using hot corners, the same corner should deactivate exposé and take you back where you were. There's no need for an x. I actually use a hot corner for dashboard and have never clicked the x.



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Authored by: Dragon76 on Apr 16, '10 08:33:48PM

Mac Berry was meaning the X to close an app or window, not to close Exposé.



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Authored by: robogobo on Apr 17, '10 09:39:22AM

ah I see. My mistake. That would be a good idea.



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Authored by: asmeurer on Apr 16, '10 08:06:57AM

Spaces is esssential to my workflow, but I can get along on someone else's computer without them. Exposé is so convenient that I find myself cursing any computer that I have to use that doesn't have it (read: PCs).



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Authored by: aragondraco on May 05, '10 04:10:25PM

I'm ashamed to say that until I could afford the REAL Mac product, I had to install a free version of an Expose' like product on my now defunct winD'ohs (spelling intended) machine. Was slow, but effective. This and other products were used to make up for the lack of Mac.

Now, I own a true Mac and couldn't be more pleased.



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Authored by: Drdul on Apr 16, '10 08:09:17AM

Spaces makes sense when you don't have much screen, er, space. I can't live without Spaces on my MacBook Pro, whereas I have no use for it on my Mac Pro with dual 30-inch monitors.

I use Exposé only occasionally, because (you're gonna like this, Rob) I use Witch as my primary Window switcher.



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Authored by: renaultssoftware on May 03, '10 04:37:04PM
I use SnapRocket as my switcher. It's different but still switches windows.

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Authored by: pepijndevos on Apr 16, '10 08:11:28AM

When I'm using the keyboard I get around using cmd+tab and cmd+` While I'm using the mouse I use a hot corner to switch apps.

I intend to use Spaces more, because I love them, but I rarely do in practice. It requires some effort to get used to I guess.



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I don't get Spaces
Authored by: hamarkus on Apr 16, '10 08:24:12AM

Assume I have two spaces, I have Finder windows open in both of them. Now I close all Finder windows in space A. Shortly afterwards I decide to open a new Finder window while still in space A by clicking on the Finder icon in the Dock. What happens? I will be transported to Space B which still has Finder windows open.

That happens with every app which is needed in more than one space (and thus not permanently assigned to one space). Whenever I try Spaces, this behaviour pretty fast makes me abandon Spaces again.



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I don't get Spaces
Authored by: auco on Apr 16, '10 09:43:07AM

This behaviour can be switched off in System Preferences > Spaces (last option in the window; at least under 10.6.)



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I don't get Spaces
Authored by: intragenesis on Apr 18, '10 07:24:15AM

First, in System Preferences->Spaces you can set the number of spaces, the default space applications load, and also configure your mouse to "display" all of the spaces at once. In my case, I configured the side button on my mouse to open spaces.

Once I click, and all spaces are shown, I simply click to switch to a particular space then press Apple Key + N, to open a new finder window. If necessary, I can then click my mouse to display all the spaces then drag and drop that finder window to any space I want.

It is a very fast process, maybe give that setup a try.



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Authored by: fyngyrz on Apr 16, '10 08:26:45AM

I use multiple monitors. Spaces seems to me to be just a workaround for not having multiple monitors, so I've experienced no need for it or any of its clones (I'm running 10.5.)

As for expose, again, that's for when you have too much on one monitor, and multiple monitors is an elegant solution to keeping things organized in such a way that hunting for a buried window isn't something you need to do.

Given how inexpensive monitors and graphics cards are, I'm surprised more people don't go right for this kind of configuration; most macs support at least two monitors these days (and a macpro like mine can drive up to eight without even breaking a sweat.) You can buy a serviceable starter LCD monitor for around $100 these days (see amazon.com, for instance.)

I suppose desk space could be an issue, but I simply designed my desk space around the idea that I'd have a bunch of monitors -- it seems like the obvious thing to do if productivity is the goal.

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Authored by: Mac Berry on Apr 16, '10 09:01:05AM

Bit difficult with a laptop used AS a laptop though eh? ;)

I agree though spaces is nothing more than multiple monitors on a single monitor. Expose on the other hand allows you to do so much, it's far more than something you can replicate just by having several monitors.

Mark



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Authored by: brucio on Apr 17, '10 01:31:50AM

I have an external monitor on my Macbook, and I can't imagine using it without Spaces (using Hyperspaces helps.) Space 1 is my Work space, with a Word processor and Outliner. Space 2 is my Web space, with browser and email. Space 3 is my Planning space, with OmniFocus and iCal. Space 4 is Parallels.

With so much screen space a click away, I find I really don't need Esposé.



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Authored by: beepotato on Apr 17, '10 02:09:23AM

I have an external monitor connected to my MacBook, and I uses Spaces with 9 spaces. Guess what? I still need Exposé in order to access all my windows, even with all that space available.



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Authored by: BlackjackJoe on Apr 16, '10 08:41:05AM

I tried Spaces when I first got my MacBook Pro. Seems pretty useless to me. Expose, on the other hand, I find very useful, especially to get to the desktop when I have a lot of windows open.



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Authored by: krsmes on Apr 16, '10 08:46:09AM

Unlike fyngyrz I find multiple monitors + Spaces to be very useful. I use "Spaces Preferences" and have setup a number of application to be "Every Space". I then put those apps on my second monitor. This way when I switch spaces the one monitor stays the same while the other monitor changes.

I wish there were a shorter way to to change the current applications spaces preference setting than having to open Spaces Preferences though.



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Spaces is a huge timesaver
Authored by: schutt on Apr 16, '10 08:52:19AM

Using spaces is a huge timesaver when you need a lot of windows open. I recently had to use a computer without spaces for a while, and it felt so primitive. You don't realize how much time is wasted switching windows until after you've learned to use Spaces (and to a lesser extent, Expose), then it's hard to go back. Unfortunately, Spaces is still incredibly buggy and non-customizable. It hasn't caught up to the Linux virtual monitor program I used eight years ago.



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Spaces is a huge timesaver
Authored by: Mac Berry on Apr 16, '10 09:04:49AM

Can you give some examples of how you use Spaces please? I find Expose perfect for switching windows, so I'm not understanding how you use Spaces that makes it better?

I'd love to know, because I'm sure I under use Spaces at the moment.

Mark



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Spaces is a huge timesaver
Authored by: gidds on Apr 16, '10 12:35:23PM

Okay, here's my usage. (Everyone else's will vary :) I have six spaces (i.e. screens), and I often have windows open on all of 'em.

The first one is for Mail; I have the Inbox window, any emails I've yet to read or reply to or do something with (always a number of these); and any other windows I open while writing mail.

The second is my main web browsing window, with MacReporter and Safari. (At least one Safari window with some tabs, coz there are always a few pages I've not got around to reading; I may open another window with more tabs for specific purposes such as researching and buying products or specific web searches.)

Third is for iTunes. Along with the main iTunes window, I'll also have other windows open temporarily, such as Finder or Safari or MP3Trimmer when I'm adding new music.

Fourth is for TV, with the main EyeTV window, and also its viewer window (when not full-screen). I'll also open Safari etc. windows if I want to look up something related to what I'm watching.

The other two windows are used as and when, but it's rare for both to be empty. For example, when I'm working on some software, I'll have Eclipse or Script Editor or Terminal open for editing, plus Terminal and/or Finder windows for testing and that sort of thing. Or I may have several Safari windows if researching something, to keep them separate from my general browsing. Or I may be writing some music in Cubase or Lilypond, both of which need several windows. Or using Amadeus Pro to edit programmes recorded off the radio. Or, well, anything that's a concentrated task and needs most of the screen.

For example, I've just checked, and I currently have 26 windows open across 5 screens, with the other one empty.

Does that give you any ideas?

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Spaces is a huge timesaver
Authored by: schutt on Apr 17, '10 05:43:33AM

It depends on what you are doing. Spaces is best when you are using lots of windows and have sets of windows to switch between. If you are only using a few windows, Expose is convenient. One problem with Expose is that the windows don't always end up in the same location, so it takes a little while to find the correct window. With Spaces, I have windows grouped by task, so I can use it to see an entire set of windows at once. I also assign a number to each space, so I just hit control-number to switch directly to a space. So I'll have Safari or Chromium in one space, a writing program in another space (usually with several sections open in different windows), a spreadsheet or math program in another space, a bibliography editor (with lots of windows of notes in another, and Preview or Skim in another. Then, instead of looking through the list or grid to find the correct window, I can know that hitting ctrl-2 will give me Safari instantly. If I have several Safari windows open, I then use command-` or Expose to find the correct one. I know that ctrl-4 will take me back to whatever I was writing, without having to look through the list of earlier sections I have open for cross-reference. If I'm coding, I can have the docs open in one space, the code editors in another, and the output in another, and not end up with a huge pile of windows to sort through.



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Authored by: pete on Apr 16, '10 09:10:26AM

I've used Spaces right from the get go. I have been using some sort of multiple windows app for years. We have it at work with Unix/Linux, so I had to have it for at home on my various Macs.

As far as Expose goes, I use it a bit, but with 6 Spaces going, I don't need to use it too much.



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Authored by: justice on Apr 16, '10 09:51:49AM

I can't live without Spaces any more. I was a Linux user and had many virtual desktops in X. Switched to Mac and found it insufferable having to continually hide windows. Have been thrilled with spaces. I have one for IM, one for Mail and iCal, one for Firefox, one for Echofon, one for Emacs and Skim, and three more that get used for other apps when they're open. I can quickly jump to wherever an app is that I need without worrying about window positioning. I love it.

Expose, on the other hand, gets a great big *yawn* from me. I think it's because I always have an extra space where I can see the desktop if I need it, like mentioned above.



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: macmath on Apr 16, '10 09:22:57AM

It would be interesting to know what the usage of each is by individual. That is, does a person who uses Spaces a lot us Expose only a little, and vice-versa. Do very many people use both a lot or both very little?



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Authored by: alexwt on Apr 16, '10 09:26:10AM

I find Spaces very useful for certain programs on a single monitor. It's great for programs that are best in full screen (ArchiCAD, iPhoto, iMovie), you just assign them to their own space and you don't need to hide their windows when they are not the active program. (I've also used dual monitors with my laptop and then it seems better to use each monitor for different tasks.)
Expose's killer app is F10 - showing the active windows of the current app. I use this all the time in any app that has multiple windows (Finder, Mail, Preview, ArchiCAD) it is such a fast and easy way to find the last window you were using.



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Authored by: smitty97 on Apr 16, '10 10:38:32AM
defaults write com.apple.dock single-app -bool true
...and never bother with Spaces again!

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Authored by: renaultssoftware on May 03, '10 04:44:14PM

There are times this doesn't work: usually when I cmd-tab to another application.



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Authored by: imageme on Apr 16, '10 10:41:34AM

i've been using multiple monitor configurations for a long time. with multiple large monitors and copious amounts of screen real estate i've never really developed the habit of using spaces. (linux,unix,or osx) but expose is something i use every day, find it most functional.



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Expose: YES! Spaces: Meh.
Authored by: AdamBitTheApple on Apr 16, '10 10:56:47AM

I use Expose constantly! I have Hot Corners set up for it, and I also have buttons on my mouse (Logitech MX Revolution) set up for it. Depending on what I'm doing, one way of activating Expose is more useful than another. This is also in addition to using cmd-tab very frequently.

Some posters have said that Expose isn't useful if you're using multiple monitors, but I would have to respectfully disagree. I use Expose no matter if I'm on a multiple monitor MacPro setup, my 20' iMac, or my tiny-screened Dell Mini 10v hackintosh. Expose is, in my opinion, one of the greatest aspects of OS X. And when I see other Mac users not using Expose, it drives me nuts! It saves so much time, yet some people prefer to click on the Hide button in their windows. Why, oh God why?!?!?! hahaha

Spaces on the other hand, I have yet to really use. When I first got Snow Leopard, I used it a little bit, but mainly just because it was a feature I didn't have until then (I had Tiger before SL, skipped Leopard). I have yet to find a good use for Spaces, but I'm glad it's there, in case I ever find that I suddenly have a use for it.



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Authored by: kiltbear on Apr 16, '10 11:03:07AM

Doh, I said never on expose, when in fact I use it a lot...

I don't use spaces because I have a double monitor at work. If I didn't have dual monitors, I'd probably use spaces more. Using spaces with a double monitor is a LOT to keep track of.

I keep trying to get one of my creatives to use expose, he constantly shuffles through windows, moving them mostly off the screen to get to what he wants.

I show him Hide and Expose, and cmd-tab, but to no avail...



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Authored by: brendon2020 on Apr 16, '10 11:05:09AM

use it a lot but it still needs major fixing/tweaks. Apps that don't support spaces and omg dialog boxes.



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Authored by: arcticmac on Apr 16, '10 11:36:54AM

I use spaces far more than expose, and consider it to be entirely different from having multiple monitors - spaces allows me to separate tasks that I'm working on, whereas multiple monitors allows me to look at more of the current task at once.

My setup involves having a separate space for each "task". I use 9 spaces and often have a different project going in 7 or 8 of them at any given time. Absolutely key to being able to do this is doing a

defaults write com.apple.Dock "workspaces-auto-swoosh" 0
I also really appreciate
defaults write com.apple.Dock "workspaces-swoosh-animation-off" 1
The other thing I've done that I really like is to setup (using the keyboard prefpane) so that cmd-f1 takes you to space 1, etc. That way, I hit cmd-f1 to go to my "email and general web browsing" space, and cmd-f2 to go to the space where I'm working on my physics homework, and cmd-f8 to go to the space where I'm working on an app in xcode.

Having done this, I usually use expose relatively little - just to get to the desktop when I need to. The thing is that each task only involves a couple apps usually, so it's much faster to use cmd-tab to get to the app I want than to hit the expose key, move a hand to the mouse, and then find the window I'm looking for. This is also not helped by the fact that I use expose infrequently enough that I often can't remember which key is "all windows" and which is "app windows".



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Authored by: Jwink3101 on Apr 16, '10 12:13:26PM

I agree with a lot of people about Spaces being the alternative to multiple monitors. I usually use my laptop hooked up to a display and keyboard so I do not use Spaces. But, when I am just on the built in screen, it is a godsend. Especially when doing computer simulations. I can have the code in one display, the terminal and some other information in the next, then I can have the web browser on the man and help pages in the next. After that, I have my electronic lab notebook. Finally, I have one with email and personal stuff.

It is also great in class because I can have my notes on one and then my web browser on the other. If the professor is walking by, I can switch.

Expose is by and large, the greatest mac feature ever. If absolutely love it and it is essential to me. If I ever need to move to windows, an expose clone will be sorely needed. (on a side, the next best feature for me is QuickView. Use it every day!)



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Authored by: ru4real on Apr 16, '10 12:30:53PM

I use both constantly, and this is with a dual monitor setup. It's great knowing exactly where every app that I use constantly is located, and I don't have to mess around with getting something out of the way or digging for a lost window. I would be so frustrated if I lost either Expose or Spaces.



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Authored by: dILVISH on Apr 16, '10 01:14:12PM

I must agree with those who find Spaces essential, and also those who point out that multiple monitors is no substitute.

I use a space for each task. I'm usually using most of nine spaces (mail, web, terminal, omnifocus, itunes, aperture if I've left it open.) I can completely change the context of my system by switching spaces.

The other thing I want to add is that I've got two-finger swipes on the magic mouse configured to switch spaces up, down, left or right. Prior to this I would use the side-buttons on a mighty mouse to invoke the Spaces pager, but swiping spaces is much, much nicer.



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Authored by: leamanc on Apr 16, '10 01:35:49PM

You want to know about something I never use? Dashboard. I hate when I accidentally hit that key, and then it leaves the Dashboard process running...



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Authored by: Bairnsfather on Apr 16, '10 02:00:00PM

Just make an AppleScript app that quits the Dock and assign it to a keystroke. I've done this since once in a while it's helpful to run the Dashboard, but at least to me, those little things use a bunch of RAM.

tell application "Dock"
try
quit
on error
-- Oops. This means there was an error. Drat.
end try
end tell

The only bad "side effect" I have from this is any minimized windows pop out of the Dock, but …



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Authored by: chris_on_hints on Apr 16, '10 02:18:08PM

Dashboard? It runs calculator and iStat and thats it. Nice to flick to for a quick calculation or to check on cpu usage, then flick out. I thought I would use it more when it was first announced....



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Authored by: everkleer80 on Apr 20, '10 09:42:36AM

It's cool that the calculator is available as a quick little dashboard widget, but I LOVE having it built into Spotlight so I've never used the dashboard one. And my stats are done through MenuMeters (I've heard iStat - or some program by the same company - does menus too and is better than MenuMeters, so I may check that out sometime.) I do use the Dashboard though when I want to see a quick weather forecast or calendar.



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Authored by: lowbatteries on Apr 16, '10 03:30:33PM

There's a nice "Stop Dashboard" widget (oh the irony!) but it always right there when you need it - in the Dashboard. I use it quite often (its also a quick way to kill the Dock, if, like me your Spaces sometimes get stuck).

Edit .... discussed here: http://www.natal.be/2005/10/stopdashboard-widget/

Edited on Apr 16, '10 03:32:10PM by lowbatteries



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Authored by: soundsgoodtome on Apr 17, '10 12:52:26AM

why not disable the shortcut for invoking dashboard?



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Authored by: Jai Gill on Apr 16, '10 01:58:34PM
I use three Spaces for Work (Excel, Word, iWork FileMaker - pretty much anything to do with my work) Communications & Scheduling (Safari, Entourage, iCal, Hit List) and Play (games, iTunes, Quicktime etc). I have enhanced Spaces with HyperSpaces to have different desktop colours/pictures (vital to get the concept across to anyone who has never used Spaces before) and Warp to click near either edge of the screen to go to the Space to the left or right of where I currently am. I seldom use Exposé as I tend to hide applications when I am not using them.
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Authored by: Bairnsfather on Apr 16, '10 02:02:06PM

My wish for Spaces enhancement would be if the menu shortcut would show a graphical grid instead of numbers.



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Can't see the point
Authored by: clytie on Apr 16, '10 08:35:14PM
I don't use Spaces at all, and only use Exposé when an app refuses to show a window for some reason. Maybe I'm missing the point, but with Keyboard Maestro and Quicksilver, I can bring anything I want to the front with a quick keypress. I always have a large number of apps and windows open, but have no problem managing them with these two utilities. This is on a laptop, too. My daughter has been lobbying intensively for a huge wallscreen. I'll tell her she doesn't need it if she has Spaces. ;)
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Clytie Siddall -- Renmark, in the Riverland of South Australia

MacBook Pro mid-2009, 2.8 GHz, 4 MB RAM, latest OSX; iPhone 3G latest OS


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AGREED!
Authored by: bcometa on Apr 17, '10 04:36:10PM

I think everyone here is loosing time by using spaces and, to a lesser extent, expose. If you're savvy enough with keyboard shortcuts, command-tab, and quicksilver, there is no faster or more efficient way to get around your Mac. *Obviously multiple monitors are better, but IMO Spaces is no substitute for multiple monitors.



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I'm clearly a weird one...
Authored by: Angostura on Apr 17, '10 03:05:22AM
I use Exposé fairly regularly to find my way around windows or to get to the desktop. I simply don't see the point in Spaces at all... if I want to switch to an app I click on it's Dock icon. Job done.

It's not an equivalent of multiple screens because the the point of multiple screens is to be able to see multiple windows simultaneously and to be able to drag and drop between them.

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I'm clearly a weird one...
Authored by: robogobo on Apr 17, '10 09:41:58AM

exactly.

edit: oh I meant exactly, that's what I was thinking, not that you're a weird one.

Edited on Apr 17, '10 09:42:43AM by robogobo



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Authored by: paulbrainerd on Apr 17, '10 04:11:29PM

I use both Spaces and Expose, particularly when I am on the move and have only my MacBook. By using Spaces, well……. I feel like I have more space and can spread things out a bit. At home I have dual monitors so I use only expose. The extended desktop is sufficient real estate.
I have 6 windows. Five are assigned. Safari on 1, Mail 2, iTunes 3, iPhoto 4 and 5 is a dedicated finder window. 6 is open and used for either Skype, MacJournal, Word processing with a totally black background (eclipse with backdrop) or photo processing with Photomatix, Lightroom or APCS 4. I use hot corners as well as Ctl+(the number) for Spaces, and gesturing for Expose. Mouse buttons when at home for Expose. Here's my rub. I never use the 4 finger gesture to evoke the application switcher. I find it awkward. I wish Apple would allow to customize for a Spaces gesture in it's place…….. and there is no way I'm going to install 3rd party software for this feature on my multi-touch trackpad.



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Authored by: wolfy on Apr 17, '10 06:13:37PM

I use Spaces fairly regularly on my MBP, with 4 spaces with specific apps assigned to each. I don't use Spaces at all on my iMac since I have a 24-inch iMac paired with a 23-inch Cinema display - that's enough real estate to pretty much eliminate the need for Spaces.

I almost never use Expose intentionally.

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Wolfy



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Authored by: tommyw on Apr 18, '10 02:23:46AM

I tried out the tip on Tidbits to activate Single App mode.

http://db.tidbits.com/article/10624

This makes both Spaces and to a lesser extent Expose unnecessary.

I tried it for a day and then deactivated Spaces. After living in this mode for the past few weeks I find I don't miss Spaces at all.

The need for Expose is also much reduced. Except when you Cmd-Tab or use Launchbar to have two app windows visible at once.

Recommend checking it out.



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Couldn't Live Without Spaces
Authored by: intragenesis on Apr 18, '10 07:18:58AM

Spaces is an excellent example of a time saver. As a web developer I typically have Dreamweaver, Flash, Photoshop, Firefox, Thunderbird, iCal, chat clients, VMWare etc all open in different spaces. I set my side mouse button (and F8 on the keyboard) to open and display spaces, this makes it easy to quickly switch to different applications. When spaces is "zoomed out" or displayed you can also drag and drop apps from one space to another. I typically use 9 spaces on my 25" iMac.

Using Spaces sure beats having to deal with a single window and multiple applications constantly overlapping each other -- then wasting time digging through, or for instance be in photoshop and accidentally click on a stray tool panel from a different application, thus switching to the undesired application.



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Authored by: joestalin on Apr 18, '10 10:42:27AM

Somehow I've never bonded with Expose. I can recognize that it's a slick feature, and I do find it useful when I've got minimized windows, but it's not part of my day-to-day workflow.

Spaces I use to segregate games from everything else. That's about it. I've tried using it in other ways and it didn't help me.

For the most part I hide apps or close their windows when they're not in the foreground, which is my way of dealing with screen organization.



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: dpo on Apr 18, '10 02:08:57PM

I am a major user of both. I typically have one of the cinema displays plugged into my MBP and about 12 desktops in Spaces. That's 24 desktops total and I use them all each day. Expose is also necessary. Like many others who come from the Unix/Linux world, I find major defects in Spaces:

http://www.pascal.com/diary/2007/11/a-proposal-for-improving-spaces-in-leopard/

The worst defect in my opinion is the desktop switching feature which drives me mad.



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Expose_and_Spaces (Combined or exclusive)
Authored by: chrisd on Apr 18, '10 10:44:31PM

I have the feeling that those two features are somehow exclusive.
I use Spaces a lot but almost never Expose
And I sit next to co-workers who do the reverse.

I wonder if Rob could do some analysis on the the poll combination. Maybe Apple would like the outcome to further enhance these features.
Sorry, but my personal stat capabitlities are far below average.

Christophe



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: gmachen on Apr 19, '10 10:30:41AM

I use a utility to keep all my background apps hidden.
Expose unfathomably doesn't show hidden apps.
Consequently, Expose is utterly useless to me.



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: robleach on Apr 19, '10 11:06:50AM

Anyone know an elegant way to name spaces or put different desktop images on them? I've been using stickies with a large font and hiding them under the dock and then assigning each one to an individual space using AFloat. It's been a little buggy though. If I use the "Keep Afloat" setting so that none of my other windows dipping below the dock hide it, the stickies' space-assignment starts getting scrambled. And then if I restart my machine, the space assignments have to be reset.

Rob



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: everkleer80 on Apr 20, '10 09:55:08AM

I put 'regularly' for my expose use, but my regular use is only for the show desktop option. I don't use it to switch apps/windows (at least not much); I am a heavy keyboard user and I use CMD-TAB/CMD-backtick(`) to switch apps/windows. (I actually hate how if I happen to be moving the mouse at the same time when I'm trying to CMD-TAB, the mouse will select apps; I wish I could disable mouse selection in the App Switcher. Anyone?)



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: sahm on Apr 20, '10 10:02:57AM

I find Spaces to be my number 1 favorite feature, although Exposé is very handy too.
I usually have multiple projects I'm working on, and use a different space for each, often with the same applications running in many of the spaces; for instance, I have one or more browser pages in use for each project (totaling about 30 pages and multiple tabs in some).
Simply switching between applications is of limited value for me. I tend to use more than one application when working on a project and want them both visible on the same screen, and being able to keep this set of windows and programs available in its own separate space makes it so much better than I can't imagine trying to work without it.



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: scifiman on Apr 20, '10 07:21:11PM

Wow. I am surprised at the comments to this poll. Unlike so many of you, I use spaces ALL THE TIME. It is essential for everything I have open on my 24" iMac and 24" Dell monitor. I love it!

But I NEVER use Exposé. I just can't. I've tried a bit and it looks cool to show off, but I am one of those people constantly in Terminal or Word or whatever and I live by keyboard shortcuts.

It's interesting to see those with the exact opposite reaction and perhaps I'll look at Exposé again because of it.



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: fjordaan on Apr 21, '10 03:12:52AM

I don't get either Exposé or Spaces.

(For the last 3 years my primary work computer is a Mac, but I use both Mac and Windows every day.)

Exposé seems to be an attempted solution at Cmd-Tab which was never correctly copied from Windows. Application-switching is not what you want, *window-switching* is. You want to hop between your current window and the last window you were in (or second-last, or third-last), never mind whether it's in a different application or the same one. And you want to do so by muscle memory alone, without having to look/read in order to make a selection (which is why Witch doesn't work for me). Exposé has the same problem -- when invoked, you have to squint for a few seconds to find the window you want. This is too slow.

I tried to get used to Exposé. At first I thought the hot corners were a very clever idea. But after months of trial, 4 out of 5 Exposé invocations were still accidental rather than on purpose. Just too irritating.

I agree with another poster that Spaces is largely unnecessary if you have multiple monitors. I currently have 3, each roughly dedicated to tasks. (One for email + terminal, one design and code, one just for web browsers.)

In my job I'm always working on several different jobs/projects/clients at the same time. Spaces would make sense to me if I could use it to organise projects, rather than tasks/activities. Each project involves a combination of code, design and office apps, as well email and browser. And just particular windows/tabs in each. Clearly Spaces wouldn't do this for me. I'm not sure if any window manager in any OS does that.

I'd be interested to know whether anyone else has similar views.

francois



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: sjk on Apr 21, '10 06:53:03PM

For me Spaces (and other virtual [desktop/display/screen/whatever] managers) can successfully create an illusion of having larger and/or multiple displays. I'm able to visualize and memorize locations of many windows of many apps when they're spread over a larger display plane (real and/or virtual) more effectively than when they're layered/stacked within a single smaller display space.

Having the bottom-right screen corner configured to activate Spaces makes it more convenient to drag/drop certain objects between different spaces.



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: healeydave on Apr 29, '10 11:55:22AM

Spaces is probably the best single feature I have seen added to an Operating System in over 10 years.

I have all my main applications configured to run in their own space and they occupy 70% of my huge 27" iMac.

This is pure luxury having all the space on the desktop to dedicate to a single app and for all my main apps running in their own space.

I leave a small border down the left & right sides of the screen. I have my IM clients in narrow windows on the left and the right hand side is just to get access to the desktop icons & folders.

As this promotes a really clean working environment, I keep my desktop pretty clutter free, there is space for about 3 rows of icons on the right.

I can't understand why anyone else wouldn't use spaces in this way!

With this kind of set-up, expose is redundant, in fact with spaces, I can;t understand why anyone would want to try and cram multiple applications in one space, thats so 1990's and the crappy Microsoft way !!!



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Expose_and_Spaces
Authored by: healeydave on Apr 29, '10 11:58:25AM

Spaces is probably the best single feature I have seen added to an Operating System in over 10 years.

I have all my main applications configured to run in their own space and they occupy 70% of my huge 27" iMac.

This is pure luxury having all the space on the desktop to dedicate to a single app and for all my main apps running in their own space.

I leave a small border down the left & right sides of the screen. I have my IM clients in narrow windows on the left and the right hand side is just to get access to the desktop icons & folders.

As this promotes a really clean working environment, I keep my desktop pretty clutter free, there is space for about 3 rows of icons on the right.

I can't understand why anyone else wouldn't use spaces in this way!

With this kind of set-up, expose is redundant, in fact with spaces, I can;t understand why anyone would want to try and cram multiple applications in one space, thats so 1990's and the crappy Microsoft way !!!



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