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What are your feelings on the glossy-only screen in the new MacBook Pro (and MacBook)?
1/1: What are your feelings on the glossy-only screen in the new MacBook Pro (and MacBook)?
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No problem
I've got the glossy screen on my current MacBook Pro and I think the screen looks great. On those exceptionally rare cases that I use my laptop outside, I can still see well enough, and I'm sure there will be third party screen overlays available for the new Macbooks soon.
Other...
I've owned a glossy screen MBP for a while now; I chose it intentionally (because the display looks a *lot* better) and I wouldn't buy a matte screen now unless there was no other choice.
Other...
And it's the loss of the option that's upsetting. (And glossy has only been around since the introduction of the original MacBook.)
you missed an option
What about, "Hate glossy screen, but wasn't planning on buying anyway."?
you missed an option
Another missing option: no preference for glossy or not. All of the choices are "love it" or "hate it". I do plan to buy, but would have if it'd been only matte, only glossy, or a choice.
Other issues
I strongly dislike the glossy screens (from experience in stores; I've never owned one) and am unlikely to buy the new MacBook because of it. (I still happily use my trusty PowerBook G4 with a recently replaced battery and upgraded hard drive and memory and, of course, a matte screen.)
Firewire 800 works with Firewire 400
All you need is either a cable adapter/dongle (800->400) or a cable with a Firewire 800 on one end, and Firewire 400 on the other end. The Apple Store carries both. The Belken Firewire 800->Firewire 400 cable is of the thin variety, like Apples.
Firewire 800 works with Firewire 400
Good. That helps, but it still requires another dongle, although that's not so much a problem for my non-portable external hard drive.
Firewire 800 works with Firewire 400
should of been one of the cables included w/ the laptop...
I like glossy screens
Matte screen is a deal broker to me - It has to be glossy screen. I am definitely getting a 17" MacBook Pro to replace my current 17" one.
Despise them...
I'm one of those people who dislikes glossy screens. I'll definitely not be purchasing any high-end system of any kind which has a glossy screen. I may eventually purchase a second-hand budget system with a glossy screen to fill the gap until decent screens become available again.
Despise them...
Erm, machines with glossy screens aren't "high end". They're completely unsuitable for graphic design work, video work, or engineering work.
Despise them...
And Linux dosen't use Hard links?
Feedback
The poll is good, but this is even better:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html Go tell them. Tell them what you think and what your consequences will be. Especially if you DON'T belong to the "vast majority" of glossy lovers... (I don't. Definitely.)
Feedback
Thanks for the link. I left constructive feedback and honestly told them that this means I will have to abandon all future Apple hardware purchases and switch to generic PC hardware with Linux for software development and Windows (yuck) for Photoshop work.
Feedback
Don't really know if threatening to stop buying Apply products will have much effect. Apple has been known to do what they think is right for you, regardless of what you think. E.g. abandoning the floppy disk drive. They're probably hoping that eventually, most laptop screens (Win. and Apple) will be glossy and then you'll all be forced to go along.
Glossy is better, but so is choice.
I don't know what you people are talking about. Matte screens DIFFUSE light, making reflected light sources appear as indiscriminate fuzzy regions. The glossy screen is like a mirror, and light sources show up as actual images of the source.
Glossy is better, but so is choice.
I think the problem is that for some people -- like me -- the mirrored images are very disruptive. My mind finds it nearly impossible to just "filter out" the floating image; I find I have to move the machine around (if I can) to eliminate the floating mirror image in order to work without distraction.
Glossy is better, but so is choice.
I see your point - where people who can't deal with the glossy screen are hooped; unlike having no floppy disk or the hockey puck mouse, where you can find a workaround if you really have to. The only option for you is to hook up an external monitor, which is not available when you travel.
Glossy is better, but so is choice.
ljharb wrote:
Glossy is better, but so is choice.
Yes, I understand - much like the entire-mouse-button on some Apple mice. The concern is, moving the cursor and clicking the button have always been and should always be two distinct hand motions, so that one never accidentally does one when intending the other.
Can Click Separately
Jason Snell over at Macworld reports that the trackpad is smart enough to realize that if you have your thumb at the "bottom" of the trackpad and index finger in the main portion it will sense the click with your thumb and pointing with your finger separately without being confused.
Glossy Screens
I don't have the glossy screen on my early 08 MBP, but I think I'd have to see it first hand before I make a judgement. I'd rather the matte, but it does look great.
Eh
I really despise the gloss, but I can live with it. I'm more likely to buy a netbook to compliment my MBP instead of buying an overly expensive new Mac at this point. I just don't need any more power than I have, but some portability would be nice.
Very happy with glossy, assume glassy even better
I bought a Feb '08 MBP glossy, and have been very happy with it; the brightness and liveliness of it compared to the other screens I have to do with are phenomenal, and I wouldn't go back to matte by choice.
My 2 cents
I currently own a MacBook Pro (first of the peryn versions, with a Matte screen) and a late 2007 iMac 24". My personal opinion of this new model is that it's pretty sweet, and if I didn't have the MBP I would seriously consider getting one of these new models. Here's why:
My 2 cents
One final thing: The pictures that have been taken of these new books I don't think do them justice. If you are lamenting them, that's fine, but you should at least give them the benefit of the doubt by checking them out first hand.
glossy screens not completely bad, but why no options or no glass?
I dislike glossy screens because they can be annoying sometimes. But most of the time I barely notice it and the reflection is actually useful in bright sunlight where matte is just washed out. But I do prefer matte for photo work.
Pro?
It's not just the look, but the practicality of the glossy screens that is a real problem. I love the deeper blacks that come from a glossy screen- when I'm watching a movie or something entertaining. Fine for the Macbook, as a class distinction from the MBP. But when I need to match screen to print output (to the already limited extent you can on a laptop screen), it will be nearly impossible, especially when the print media isn't glossy. The MBP should have a matte option, as work machine. This is an even bigger problem with the new Cinema Display, which I assume is more calibration-friendly. It's a shame because I was waiting to buy one and now I'll have to look elsewhere, and try to snatch up an older model MBP before they disappear.
Pro?
Interesting last point. Especially given that the 160 GB iPods and new 120 GB iPods look almost exactly the same.
glossy and matte
We've never gonna get a consensus here but looking at the poll 40% prefer matte. Why not have a stock matte and glossy? Do those who like glossy screens mostly use them as 'Entertainment Machines' i.e. iTunes, internet etc? I guess many who prefer matte use them for work as well.
Colours
Of course "popping" colours on a glossy screen are nice. When you're watching a movie etc.
No to glossy!
I hate glossy screens, have a MacBook Air and it's the worst thing about it. Don't want to be forced to use glossy on a machine for work (the MBA is not my main work Mac)
I don't hate glossy displays
We replaced a 15" PowerBook G4 with a 15" glossy screen MacBook Pro this Spring or Summer. The new display is so much better. They are so much more crisp than matte screens with their blurry anti-glare finish. There was no way I could use the PowerBook outside. The screen basically absorbed and diffused all the sun/sky light, obscuring the image. The glossy screen doesn't do that at all. You only need to make sure you're in a good place and position with a glossy screen outside so the reflection doesn't overpower the display's output, which is not hard to do.
Used to hate glossy
As a photographer, I used to fall into the camp that hated glossy screens, thought they would never be as good as my matte 14" TiBook. But the cheapskate in me won over -- I needed a new MacBook, faster than I would have liked and didn't want to pay the extra for a matte screen nor wait for it to arrive special order.
NO FIREWIRE!!!
No Firewire? NO THANKS! Apple removing complaints about this on their discussions forum is sick. Taking away what was once standard is really lame. I'm all fired up about this! :/
glossy no problem for me
I've owned several matte PowerBooks before my current glossy MacBook and I like the glossy screen. I'm actually surprised to read there is any strong opinion against it!
My wife needs a new portable but it won't have a glossy screen
My friend keeps saying "People change" and "Take her to the Apple store and have her look at it".
Glossy no good for image editing
I too like the look of the glossy screen for viewing images and movies, but it's absolutely useless for image editing. I currently use a MacBook Pro with a matte screen for all my initial edits on my wedding photos using Aperture, then they move to my wife's PowerMac for the final edits and culling. I mainly deal with color correction and balance for my edits and the glossy screen makes that impossible to do.
How about "I prefer glossy, but matte should be an option"
I was very sceptical of glossy screens. Then I got my MacBook. Now I prefer it over the matte kind.
How about "I prefer glossy, but matte should be an option"
Me too. I was also very skeptical about the glossy screen; but now when I compare the glossy MacBook with the iBook matte screen, there's just no comparison that the glossy screen is so much brighter and clearer. I can sit with the sun behind me shining on the glossy screen and still see the screen.
had glossy, never again
Had glossy MacBook for several months. Hated it. Useless outside.
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As a Graphic Designer the Gloswsy Screens that have been out on the market in the past several years look all nice and fancy on display in the store - but that is all_
Also.....
I think we should get the word out and begin complaining to Apple_ If they get enough response they tend to listen to their customers_
I'm going glossy
I've spent quite a bit of time studying both screens under varying light conditions over the past several months and finally came to the conclusion that my next laptop purchase will be a glossy screen.
I'm going glossy
Well, believe it or not, I simply won't buy another Mac laptop until there's a non-glossy screen option in the 15" size. (I am not going to carry a gargantuan laptop just for the matte screen.)
Not so bad in practice
To say you won't use a glossy - is like saying you are only going to use PPC. You've just committed yourself to obsolescence.
Not so bad in practice
It's not quite that bad, given that a MBP of today's Core 2 generation will be more than usable for quite a few years -- it will run the upcoming Snow Leopard just fine, for instance. In general, I don't push my laptop the way I push the desktop, so I don't need the ultimate in CPU (or video card) performance -- I just need it to work at a reasonable speed.
glossy screens
Aside from the fact that I just bought my MacBook Pro eight months ago, and it still feels new to me... I looked at the glossy and matte screens in the Apple store when I bought it, and the glossy screen seemed to pick up fingerprints and throw off too much glare from lights. I have used my laptop while riding down the highway (as a passenger) and the last thing I need is for my laptop screen to cast a glare into the eyes of somebody driving a car (especially if it's the car in which I am a passenger.)
glossy screens
That's the dumbest thing I've heard in weeks. How would your laptop screen cast a glare into the eyes of the driver?
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