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Which iCal 'event' interface do you prefer?
1/1: Which iCal 'event' interface do you prefer?
Other polls | 3,907 votes | 34 comments
Use Agendus on PDA instead
I've never used iCal. I love the way Agendus (on my Palm T|X) displays icons for every event. I can glance at the calendar and see exactly what I have planned for the month. If I need more info, I go to another view, but for the most part, a glance is all that is needed.
Use Agendus on PDA instead
Iambic doesn't need to support the mac. The Missing Sync http://markspace.com/missingsync_palmos.php synchronizes Palm to iCal, Address Book, etc. It'll keep everything neat and tidy on your mac, perfectly reflecting Agendus.
Use Agendus on PDA instead
Agendus does not sync to the Mac. It is a separate app with nothing similar on a Mac. I did say I *never* use iCal. Having The Missing Sync to sync a program I do not use is pointless. I use Agendus on my Palm as my calendar app. Iambic does not offer a desktop version for Mac.
Command-I
I didn't like the new interface at first, but now I do. The key was re-discovering the use of Command-I to bring up event details and to save changes after making edits.
In 10.5, iCal is just one view
It seems to me that the new iCal interface is biased towards reading of existing info. and against editing of the same. I suspect that as more new Leopard applications take advantage of the public CalendarStore framework to manage either all calendar information or specific subsets, this bias within iCal will lessen in significance. iCal is now just one view of a system-level database, and I'm sure many more apps with different views will emerge in the weeks and months to come.
In 10.5, iCal is just one view
I always felt like the info window on the older version got in the way. I know that sounds strange considering the 10.5 version has the pop up appear over the calendar, but the difference is that there is less disconnect now between the event and the events info. I think it's more apparent how to use iCal than before, particularly for new users.
are they on drugs?
the ical for leopard is a major step back in usability, in my not-at-all-humble opinion. It's bad enough trying to view the events in, say, week view. But when it comes to editing them, a total nightmare. What used to take one click now takes at least 3 if you are right click happy, or more if you are a double-clicking connoisseur.
are they on drugs?
I forgot to mention: whereas I used to used menucalendarclock for ical because of it's convenient menu bar calendar (really, where do they get these cray-zee names from? ;) ) now it's indispensable for being able to view the ical entries without having to resort to ical. So indispensable I might even pony up the 20 bucks shareware fee now. More so since 20 bucks is about £2.50 in real money these days ;)
I hate it...
Personally, I hate this change: before, you could easily browse a ton of events (and their details) with a glance at the sidebar as you used the arrow keys to move from event to event. Now I have to use Command-I and Escape to open and close windows as I move around.
...I love it
Frankly, I don't get what all the complaining is about. I've been using iCal for years for everything that I do; I track every event and appointment in it, have every birthday, anniversary, personal notable date, etc., in it as well. In short, there probably aren't a whole lot of people who use iCal _more_ than I do.
Creating and editing vs. browsing
Great, so it's better at creating and editing events (in your opinion). My complaint is about browsing existing events. In the old setup, it required zero effort to see the event details. In the new setup, I have to press Cmd-I for every single event just to see the details ...and then press Escape to close that window. Repeat ad infinitum.
BTW, this all relates to month view. Daily and weekly views are useless to me, as I have too many longer-term projects that I like to be able to see at a glance. -rob.
Creating and editing vs. browsing
While I prefer the old method of an event's details sticking around on the screen, there's a couple of shortcuts which make the new method more bearable:
Creating and editing vs. browsing
If it helps, you can just hit command-I again to close (you don't need to move your fingers to escape)
Both
I like both, and would like to have both. :)
They Fixed The Icon!
That's all I care about...the icon in the dock now shows the correct date all the time, instead of forgetting it between logins. No more looking in the clock menu to see the date.
They Fixed The Icon!
Amen brother... I thought I was the only one who appreciated the current-date-in-icon thing!
Use an inspector
I think the cure for the missing drawer is an inspector palette, ala iWork, or Omni apps.
Use an inspector
You had this exact option in 10.4, actually. If you went to the Menu bar, under Window>Detach Info panel.
Nobody missing the list view ?
I used the list view of iCal a lot.
iCal 10.5 vs 10.4
I didn't had any problem with the drawer always visible. The only thing that was bothering me was when I used iCal on my laptop... Which make the Leopard pop-up suddenly more appealing...
iCal 10.5 vs 10.4
To view today's date, click the big 'Today' button at the top-left of the toolbar...
iCal 10.5 vs 10.4
(Or command-T)
iCal 10.5 vs 10.4
Ooops... my bad. I was so used to see near the calendar (which makes sense)
I must agree
I must agree with Rob here. Where is "Show/Hide Result List"?
It's the functionality, not the GUI
The problem with the Leopard version is that it represents a huge step backwards in terms of functionality. I used to leave the drawer open 24x7 - literally, I never close iCal, and in Panther/Tiger the drawer was ALWAYS there.
iCal 3 is a disaster
Hate to be piping this all over but iCal 3 is a total disaster. It is a major step down in terms of productivity and not just because of the drawer issue. The major show stopper is that it responds to AppleEvents up to 20 times slower than iCal 2 on Leopard. One of the Mac's big advantages is the integrated application aspect of it. iCal is not the greatest calendar program, but the promise of being able to DO THINGS with your information outside of iCal is a big one. Leopard killed that. Any attempt to interact with iCal data via AppleEvents, if your iCal database is big enough, results in a permanent iCal hang. Plus the major under the hood problems have not been resolved -- the way iCal deals with recurring events involves parsing a recurrence string.
iCal 3 is a disaster
I understand your frustration with existing code that uses Apple Events.
Google Calendar to Spanning Sync to iCal
I enter my events into Google Calendar and use Spanning Sync to move the events into iCal, so that they will show up on my iPhone.
10.4 iCal is better
I don't use iCal, but I have tried it in both 10.4 and 10.5 and I voted to 10.4. In 10.5, it took me a minute to figure out that none of the buttons create a new event (why there is a button for new calenders but not new events is beyond me). Once I figured out how to make a new event, it took me a little longer to figure out that I had to double-click to edit it.
Multiple windows!!
I just don't understand why I can't open multiple calendar windows. What if I want a window for month, week and day view?! argh.
n/a
Altho I am more a fan of the pop OUT Side Tray - I think they should bring it back AND allow for the Pop Up Note thing that is in the new version_
Please give us "Q"!
Can't Apple take a leaf out of Google's book and incorporate the simple intelligence in Gcal's 'q' keyboard shortcut that brings up a text box into which you can type something simple like:
complaint?
These changes really bother me as well. What's the best way to complain to Apple to urge them to change it? I've never complained before...
SEND APPLE FEEDBACK
Send feedback relating to the "usability" of the new iCal.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ical.html Maybe...just maybe.. .the UI team will show some humility and give the users an option to return to the ALWAYS SHOWN functionality of an info pane. |
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