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cgoodwin got it wrong on MacLoJack - An assortment of potentially interesting free apps
Authored by: iwantgizmos on Apr 24, '08 02:53:02PM

i was looking up postings on maclojack and found this old discussion message thread here.

cgoodwin got it wrong here because he is clearly inexperienced by his inability to understand maclojack at the time in the past when he was using it.

the maclojack on the macbook always calls the server whether or not it is activated as stolen or not stolen. maclojack has to call the server to find out if you have made the settings on the server to report your macbook stolen or not. how else will maclojack know that the macbook that it is installed on is stolen or not? the server doesn't call the macbook. it is the maclojack that you install on your macbook that calls the server. that's the way it works.

this is how other tracker services work where the tracker software on the laptop calls in to a server to report its IP address on a constant repetitive basis.

the difference with MacLoJack is that MacLoJack calls in to check to see if on the server if you reported your macbook as stolen or not on a constant repetitive basis and if you report it as stolen on the server, then the server tells MacLoJack on the macbook to do some extra things. If you do report your macbook as stolen, you can only do that by logging onto the server to report the theft. If your macbook is stolen, well, you don't have your macbook to use to get onto the internet to report the theft. You have to use another computer to get onto the internet, you log into the server, report the theft, and then the next time that your macbook gets connected to the internet, the MacLoJack software on the macbook connects to the server and finds out that you said that it was stolen and then the MacLoJack sends the IP address, the screenshots, and the iSight snapshots of the crook who stole your macbook to your account on the server. Meanwhile, while you are at your other computer logged into the server, you click on the link for the special specific folder where all of this information is being sent to on the server, and you give the specific URL for that folder to the police when you file the police report about your stolen macbook and the police can monitor everything from there. It's a self-service system where you do the work of installing the software on your macbook, and you do the reporting to the police.

As for uninstalling MacLoJack, go look it up on google. You have to do this in Terminal and it's NOT HARD to do but you have to know your admin password. Unfortunately for people who have never dealt with a command line interface where you have to type in text commands at a prompt, it can get confusing. If you think it's hard to do, then if you are the real owner then be thankful that most crooks who steal laptops may also find it difficult also and will give up on trying to uninstall it also but the crooks will most likely not even know that there is any tracking software on the macbook at all and may be dumber than the typical non-technical mac user to even know what to do.

If you don't trust using the freebie MacLoJack service on your macbook, then you can always pay for Orbicule Undercover which does the same thing and the Orbicule Undercover people will give you the hand-holding support if you are like cgoodwin who needs it. Or you can get MacPhoneHome but MacPhoneHome sends emails to you with your macbook's current IP address. Some people have posted messages complaining about MacPhoneHome support, but it seems like they don't realize they have to pay for the software first to get the support and they have to FILE A POLICE REPORT first if they are to get any retrieval recovery support at all. One thing good about MacPhoneHome is that in their instructions, they do tell you how to set up the firmware password on your mac to help prevent the typical non-mac not-always-technical bad guys from formatting wiping your harddrive clean.

With the tracker services, particularly those that you pay for, do not be surprised if you get no support at all if you are asking for removal of the software from the laptop because the tracking service company will probably assume that you are the crook who stole the laptop if you are not contacting them from the account that you originally signed up with, if you don't provide the police report that the owner is expected to file when the laptop is stolen.

(But for the freebie MacLoJack, which is really a tiny daemon where you go into the unix part of the macbook, since it is free then that you do everything yourself without any handholding support; you just have go back to the site server and follow the instructions but if it's too much for you then you should have read everything beforehand and not have installed it in the first place.)

There are lots more trackers for windows laptops and only maybe five different trackers that I know of for mac. And as far as I know, they all do the constant calling home to a tracking server.



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Maclojack Server Setup
Authored by: jepler on Apr 14, '09 11:20:33AM

I would like to run the backend Maclojack tracking server myself. Does anyone know where I can find the SQL instructions needed to create the Maclojack database host tables? The cgi post script would be nice, too. Thanks.

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J Epler
San Diego, CA



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