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Authored by: kvdv on Apr 19, '08 12:11:15PM
Mark, There's something confusing about the things you're saying:
The [Gmail]/All Mail folder is special. All messages reside in it, except for messages in [Gmail]/Trash or [Gmail]/Spam. Deleting a message from [Gmail]/All Mail does nothing. It will show up again next time Mail.app syncs the folder with Gmail.
How do you delete a message? Move it into the [Gmail]/Trash folder. Messages deleted from within this folder are immediately deleted.
When you delete a message from your Inbox, it is still archived in [Gmail]/All Mail. That way, your Inbox remains clean and messages are archived by default. That works for me!

So, if i delete a message (using the delete key on my keyboard), the message goes to where? The Gmail trash? And it will be deleted after 30 days, right? But if i move it to the GmailTrash folder it will be deleted immediately? That's strange.
But...even stranger... you say that when i "delete a message from my Inbox, the Inbox remains clean while the message remains archived in GmailAll Mails". That's confusing, because you also wrote : "All messages reside in All Mail, except for messages in [Gmail]/Trash".
So, if i just deleted a message from the Inbox, that means it's going to the trash and it won't reside in All Mail? So then it's not archived after all?
-Kris

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Authored by: googoo on Apr 21, '08 10:51:09AM

Sorry my post was not clear. To answer Kris' questions, when you delete a message from Gmail using your delete key in Mail.app, the Gmail removes that label (folder) association from that message. For example, when you delete a message from your Inbox, it is removed from the Inbox, but it still appears in the other labels (folders) in which it previously resided. There are three exceptions: [Gmail]/All Mail, [Gmail]/Trash, and [Gmail]/Spam. All messages in your Gmail account that are NOT in [Gmail]/Trash or [Gmail]/Spam are also in [Gmail]/All Mail. When you delete a message from [Gmail]/All Mail, it reappears in [Gmail]/All Mail when Mail.app syncs with Gmail. When you delete a message from [Gmail]/Trash or [Gmail]/Spam, it is permanently deleted. Gmail automatically deletes messages that have been in [Gmail]/Trash and [Gmail]/Spam after 30 days. How do you remove a message from [Gmail]/All Mail? By moving it into [Gmail]/Trash or [Gmail]/Spam. (Of course, you can configure Mail.app to do just that when you delete a message, but you really would lose archiving that way.)

I misunderstood the configuration represented in the original post. Since that configuration sets up an alternate trash folder IMAP/Trash, it does not behave like [Gmail]/Trash. When Mail.app deletes the trashed messages inside that folder, they remain in [Gmail]/All Mail. Archiving is preserved!

Does that answer your questions?

-Mark



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