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Drag itunes selection to the Desktop or elsewhere
Authored by: scotty321 on Mar 05, '07 10:28:31PM

The reason people have discovered this in iPhoto is out of necessity:

Apple gives absolutely no way to attach photos from iPhoto to any web-based email system (such as Yahoo, GMail, Hotmail, etc.), or upload photos from iPhoto any photo websites (with the exception of a few websites that have created their own iPhoto plug-ins).

Therefore, users have to go through the laborious process of dragging photos from iPhoto onto the desktop, and then attaching them to their web-based emails from there, and then throwing away the photos on the desktop after that. It almost defeats the whole purpose of having the photos stored in iPhoto to begin with, because you always have to move the photos out into the Finder before doing anything with them anyways.

Obviously, any user who has tried to navigate to their "Photos" folder in an open dialog box is very quickly horrified to discover that they can't access their iPhoto Library with any sort of rhyme or reason.

What Apple really needs to do is give us a "Media" button in all open dialog boxes, just like they have a "Media" button to Keynote & Pages, so that users can QUICKLY & VISUALLY upload photos to any website where necessary.

I find it very hard to understand why the engineers at Apple haven't introduced this feature already. I work with new Mac users every single day on the Mac, training them on using the Mac for the first time, and inevitably this is the #1 problem that they encounter on a daily basis. It's almost as if the people who work at Apple are woefully out of touch with how beginning users (and even advanced users) really use their computers.

I'm also not going to switch people who are perfectly fine using webmail systems to pay extra $$ to get a POP-based system just so they can use Apple's Mail program instead. This is not the solution. The solution is that it needs to be addressed by Apple.

What makes this whole situation even worse is that this entire process of "attaching photos" within open dialog boxes works SEAMLESSLY on Windows, but it doesn't work AT ALL on the Mac. Absolutely SEAMLESSLY & BEAUTIFULLY on Windows, but doesn't work at all on the Mac?

What in the world are the Apple engineers thinking? They're obviously not thinking about what customers REALLY need.

- Scott Rose

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Drag itunes selection to the Desktop or elsewhere
Authored by: ezpkns on Mar 06, '07 01:08:09AM
I agree that adding a media section to all Finder-related dialogs is the most elegant solution - especially as Apple posits the iApps as being all the regular user needs for media management (and creation). I like how you've envisioned this and hope Leopard brings it to us.

However, I disagree that one "must" drag a photo to the desktop to attach it to web-based email. I also doubt that Apple's engineers are THAT out of touch with their users. You must admit that for those who use POP email with Apple Mail, attaching photos is pretty painless, even easy, fun.

So, those who are content with or confined to web-based email must take an extra step, but only because they have special needs. Attaching photos in Windows only works if you know where the file resides. How is that different for web mail on Mac?

It's not as though iPhoto hides its photos behind some random or impenetrable filing scheme, if one knows the filename, what year it was taken, and what Film Roll (View > Film Rolls) one can easily find any picture in any dialog. Or, you can right-click / control-click any picture in iPhoto and select Show File. Or, and I never knew this but had to try it (because I was pretty sure it would work), if you drag a photo from iPhoto to an open dialog in a web-browser, it will automatically switch to that photo's folder (why it doesn't finish the job and actually select that photo is beyond me, but we both know Apple's not perfect).

Now here's my beef... you can't drag a song from iTunes into an email message (you have to use the right-click- Show In Finder long-way-'round). I suppose this is to make it ever-so-slightly harder for people to share unprotected copyrighted music, but since it's trivial to bypass, I'd rather the drag/drop work as expected. I use iTunes to do all the mp3/AAC conversion of my own recordings, and frequently email rough mixes - sometimes several times a day - and I find iTunes drag and drop inconsistencies more than a little annoying.

PS I didn't check that iPhoto drag and drop trick extensively, I was too busy composing a painfully long-winded post.

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Drag itunes selection to the Desktop or elsewhere
Authored by: CajunLuke on Mar 06, '07 07:41:28AM

Have you ever tried dragging the picture from iPhoto to the open box? I've never used iPhoto, but this works everywhere else I've tried it.

Need to open a document in a deep folder and have the folder open? Open the program's "Open" dialog box/sheet and drag the file into the file browser in there. It will be highlighted, ready for you to hit "Open".



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