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I don't get it
Authored by: tobarstep on Jan 15, '07 07:12:07PM

Hey, I like my Mac as much as the next guy, but I really don't understand all this gushing over a phone with a low-end iPod built in. To all the people who are waiting for it to be "unlocked", I have to think you are going to be waiting a loooong time. I've heard a lot of speculation about it running OS X, but I really don't think so. The iPod doesn't, so why sould this? Plus, Apple has already stated that there will be no 3rd party software allowed on the device and no outside development allowed. I'm no legal expert, but I think that would violate the licensing of Darwin - so no OS X there.

I don't have a problem with Cingular, but I really don't understand why they phone is not going to be broadband capable. Sure, it has built-in wi-fi, but that's only good in a hotspot. The only reason to have data access on a phone is to use it in locations where you can't use wi-fi. In a way, I agree with the guy who said he wouldn't mind having a wi-fi capable iPod. This device would make a great one, but it needs more storage space for that.



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I don't get it
Authored by: Shawn Parr on Jan 15, '07 08:56:48PM
Plus, Apple has already stated that there will be no 3rd party software allowed on the device and no outside development allowed. I'm no legal expert, but I think that would violate the licensing of Darwin - so no OS X there.

First, Apple and no one from Apple has said that. To paraphrase they stated that software distribution will have to be limited. All software will be sold through Apple but "that doesn't mean that it has to be Apple who writes the software." There is a precedent for this on the iPod where 3rd party developers can write software (games) for newer iPods, but the only way to purchase/install the software is via the iTunes music store.

Secondly Apple owns the rights to Darwin, so while if another company was to base a phone on Darwin they would have to release the source code, Apple is totally within their legal rights to keep the changes to make darwin run on the phone completely secret. Apple owns the code, they don't license it like someone else would. MySQL does the exact same thing, they release their code GPL, but you can buy a commercial license with a different level of support from them if you wish.

There are a lot of things we don't know yet, especially with how to get access to programming environments and the API, but just stating that it is impossible when there are quotes from Steve Jobs himself stating that this is untrue only helps to spread fud against the device. Will this be a perfect device for you or me? Who knows until it ships, but let's not present speculation as fact.



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Darwin is not GPL
Authored by: ryanparrish on Jan 15, '07 11:13:47PM

Darwin came from a BSD license lineage, thus no modified code needs to be released.



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