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Work around an Adobe 8 Reader self-healing annoyance
Authored by: audioaquatic on Dec 12, '06 02:38:55PM

I think it's safe to say that, notwithstanding the lack of global view settings, OSX encourages (coerces?) the user to work from a single window as much as possible. In setting up a dedicated, exceedingly complicated audio box, with elaborate installs that place files all over the place, I have good reasons for separating my audio apps from the rest of the garbage I rarely use, at least in the short term (even if I do have to manually return items to their default locations for updates). For me, all non-audio apps are merely "helper apps." When I click on the Finder icon in the dock I get a new window in column view, opened to my directory of audio apps, which is all I want to see, thank you. I admit that this is unrepentant OS 9 behavior ; but, similarly, I know EXACTLY what is and where is every item in the folder (as well as the items I have moved). I guess I do it just to wrap my head around what the hell I'm doing - the visual organization helps to do this, it seems.



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Work around an Adobe 8 Reader self-healing annoyance
Authored by: DavidRavenMoon on Dec 13, '06 10:34:39AM
I think it's safe to say that, notwithstanding the lack of global view settings, OSX encourages (coerces?) the user to work from a single window as much as possible.

How so? I often have many windows open. And the fact that you can bring windows from disparate applications, including the Finder, to the front simultaneously, makes things even easier. You can have your Word document right next to your Photoshop document if you want.

I commonly have 8 applications open, and have to work between them. You are making OS X sound like its using Windows' parent/child paradigm, which it is not.

Also, how do you figure there is no global view setting? When I open a new Finder window, it's just as I have set it. Windows will retain their view setting if you change it... I have certain windows open in icon view, with previews, and maximum icon size, wile others are in list view, sorted by date modified.

My default is list view sorted by name.

And as far as using OS X for audio.... I haven't found any problem having Cubase SX, Spark XL, Entourage, and Safari (and probably a few more) open at the same time.... Why on Earth would you need to limit the applications installed on your Mac? This is not a PC where you have to remove crap from the hard drive to get it to run well.

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Work around an Adobe 8 Reader self-healing annoyance
Authored by: audioaquatic on Dec 13, '06 01:09:18PM

Apple designed the OSX Finder quite deliberately to incorporate the sidebar and customizable toolbar in order to make navigation within a single finder window as easy as possible. (The reason for this, according to some insider accounts, was that was how Steve Jobs wanted it. Very little, if any, end-user testing was involved). This has absolutely nothing to do with the windows of open applications or with running apps simultaneously. (?) As for the oft-lamented lack of global view settings, this has been addressed in a multitude of Mac GUI discussions on the web, notably those at Macintouch, with much speculation as to wether it is due to bugs or by poor design.



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Work around an Adobe 8 Reader self-healing annoyance
Authored by: DavidRavenMoon on Dec 14, '06 08:15:29AM

I'm not disagreeing with you, and I personally think the Finder is poorly designed, and needed a lot more end user testing. It's slow and buggy as well.

The NeXTites have taken over the shop, and many years of high quality UI convictions have gone out the window! We know Steve has things the way he is used to working. Until OS X was out he was using an IBM Thinkpad running OPEN STEP as his personal computer. He even used that to do the MacWorld keynotes (which is why he had Apple write Keynote...)

Personally I always I liked NeXTSTEP. I think they tried too hard to make the OS X Finder a compromise between the two OS's.

My point about multiple Finder windows is you sometimes need to do this just to move files around quickly. I keep all my audio files on a second hard drive, and that's organized with folder for each project, etc.

At my job I also have to have multiple Finder windows open for much the same reason.

One odd thing about OS X's Finder is being able to have the same folder open in multiple windows. That can't be good from a UI point of view, and I know many Windows to Mac switches (who admittedly are not computer savvy) that get quickly mixed up and lost. I don't think it was possible to get lost in OS 9!

One add-on I like a lot is DefaultFolder (having replaced ACTION Files on OS 9). Besides being able to navigate to all open Finder windows with a mouse gesture, you can assign default locations for various applications. I feel lost on a Mac without the various third party utilities I use. What does that tell you about the OS X Finder? It's sad really.

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