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Thunderbird Forever
Authored by: valx on Jun 10, '06 06:46:12AM

Why you say?

I've tried Apple Mail and Mailsmith (and a few others) and they just can't cut it for me. First of all, I'm in the "e-mail is supposed to be plain text" camp. I detest html e-mail. That brings me to the number one flaw in Apple Mail.

Apple Mail Problems

  1. If someone sends you an html e-mail, it will show the html content by default. You can switch to the plain text content, but it reverts back to html the next time an html message comes in.

  2. You cannot specify line wrap length.

  3. You cannot disable format-flowed.

  4. Only one mode for displaying quoted text.

  5. Only supports "S/Mime" out of the box.

Mailsmith Problems

  1. You cannot enable format-flowed.

  2. If you specify any semi-normal line wrap length (60-120 characters), it will force a hard wrap in long URLs thereby "breaking" them so they are not clickable.

  3. It uses quoted printable encoding when it's not necessary so you get "=20"s all over the raw source of your messages.

  4. Only supports PGP "out of the box".

Why Thunderbird Rocks

  1. Extensions. Just like it's brother Firefox, you can do about anything with extensions.

  2. You can put into a 100% plain text mode.

  3. You can specify line wrap length and it will leave long URLs intact.

  4. You can specify what encodings to use and when to use them.

  5. You can toggle format-flowed to your desired preferences.

  6. You can use either original quote characters (">") or the new fancy vertical bars for quotations.

  7. Through the userChrome.css file, you can make the mail client itself look however you want it to look. Mine looks like Tiger's Mail.

  8. Supports S/Mime "out of the box" and OpenPGP through the Enigmail extension.

Basically, you can turn it into the mail client you want it to be.



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Thunderbird Forever
Authored by: TokyoJimu on Jun 10, '06 09:43:05AM
I can't address your other Apple Mail issues (and I must say that it has enough quirks to keep me from using it as my default mailer), but you can set it to show plain text by default:

defaults write com.apple.mail PreferPlainText -bool TRUE

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Thunderbird Forever
Authored by: valx on Jun 10, '06 04:20:48PM

I have tried this setting. However, when someone sends HTML e-mail, it defaults to the html content rather than the plain text. I have no idea why.



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Thunderbird Forever
Authored by: xSmurf on Jun 10, '06 02:39:09PM
You say
Apple Mail Problems
   5. Only supports "S/Mime" out of the box.

Why Thunderbird Rocks
    8. Supports S/Mime "out of the box" and OpenPGP through the Enigmail extension.

Well Mail.app does support GnuPG from MailPG (or something similar, look on macupdate), which is a simple extension so I don't believe this is a fair point. Not to talk about the fact that you don't look at Thundermail's problem, which are very similar to Firefox. For example: the lack of mac integration (no keychain, services, etc), slugish and kinda ruff.

On a side note

As far as webmail goes... I do like gmail, but Roundcube looks very promising and isn't a separate email service, which I find better as I can continue to use my exisiting imap account. It'd be nice if gmail allowed you to use their interface for external pop/imap accounts (although, I'm not I do trust them ;o)

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Thunderbird Forever and Whereever
Authored by: smilec on Jun 13, '06 07:31:32AM

Thunderbird to access the same mailbox under Linux/ppc and Mac OSX on my dualboot iBook and even across the network under i686/Linux and i686/Windows.



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