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Yeah mozilla is #1
Authored by: obi-1-kenobi on Apr 05, '02 02:11:12AM

I would have to agree with you their, Mozilla is number one. I have only used it for a couple of weeks and I decied to remove my last personal choice I.E. Thoes advance options you can choose from are pretty neat. Thanks for the tip.

I can't wait for Mozilla 1.0

( Do i dare say FP :p )



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Yeah mozilla is #1
Authored by: JKT on Apr 05, '02 06:36:42AM

My (biggest) problem with Mozilla at the moment is that it's image filtering system sucks badly. It desperately needs the flexibility of iCab or OmniWeb. In OS9, 0.9.9 is also incredibly buggy and has hard crashed my system quite a lot too. I don't know how bad it is in OSX as I can't bring myself to use it due to the limited image filtering and the ugliness factor relative to OmniWeb. At the moment the only really compelling feature it has over other browsers is tabbed browsing (which you can semi-emulate with the other browsers in OSX by maximising all windows and then minimising them to and from the Dock).

Anyway, it is good but still not that great IMO. Hopefully, version 1.x will bring it up to a par.



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Image filtering...
Authored by: robg on Apr 05, '02 08:56:35AM

I guess I don't see the problem with control-clicking an image and saying "Block images from this server." But then again, my needs are probably somewhat simplistic in comparison to others.

Regarding the crashes, I haven't ever had Mozilla lock up OS X. I had some unexpected quits for a while with one of the early 0.99 builds, but those stopped when I trashed my Mozilla folder and let the browser rebuild its files (I also downloaded a newer nightly, so I'm not quite sure which action fixed the problem). Since then, it's been rock solid.

-rob.



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Image filtering...
Authored by: JKT on Apr 05, '02 09:41:59AM

The image filtering is poor because when you block "images from this server" you can often block images that you need to see. For example, I blocked some ads at the Register.co.uk and half the buttons and the Title image of the actual site were also blocked as the ads were from the same server as the website itself. There is no fine control - I either put up with those ads or lose half the images on the site. With iCab and OmniWeb, you can filter any image on a purely individual level or use more wide-ranging filters to catch all ads etc (just look at iCab's image filtering options to see what I mean... Omniweb 4.1's are a little more difficult to set up but are actually very powerful once you learn the syntax). If I remember when I get home tonight, I'll post the 10 or so strings in OW's privacy settings that I have set up and these block 99% of all ads I come across on the web - even before I enter a new site... I ought to submit that to you as a hint ;-)



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Here you go
Authored by: JKT on Apr 05, '02 03:11:49PM

N.B. I'll submit this as a separate hint too - that way people can add to (or correct!) mine:

These all work for me and block 99% of ads I come across (unfortunately, you'll have to copy/paste them individually into the Privacy preferences - the first few were the OW 4.1 defaults so they can be ignored):

/ads\..*\.net/
/ads\..*\.com/
/.*\.doubleclick\.net/
/spinbox\.*
/www\.deplume\.com/thinksecret/advertising/*
/mirror\.qkimg\.net/*
/adserver1\.*
/kermit\.*
/a\.r\.tv\.com/cnet\.12h/Ads/*
/techtracker\.spinbox\.net/*
/www\.domainbuster\.com/*
/www\.cnet\.com/Ads/*
/adserver1\.backbeatmedia\.com/*
/www\.macrumors\.com/cgi-bin/adcycle/

For some ads you may find that you need to copy the url of the image itself, and not the link from the image, to be able to block it (after first editing for syntax and to reduce the specificity to catch all other ads at the same domain etc). Obviously, some of those are site specific (e.g. thinksecret, macrumors, cnet etc). Others are much more general.

Rule of thumb any . that is not immediately after a / should be proceeded by a \ ... the OmniWeb help files have a description of how to set up filters using the necessary syntax.



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Filtering Banners from Moz too
Authored by: chew_wei on Apr 05, '02 05:55:39PM

While not Pop-ups, this isn't far off topic.

There is BannerBlind @ the Mozdev site: http://bannerblind.mozdev.org/

Which allows for filtering based on image size. Seems to work alright.



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Yeah mozilla is #1
Authored by: nycdewd on Apr 13, '02 10:22:15AM

Mozilla is by far the most disgustingly ugly bit of bloatware that has ever been my displeasure to use.

NO, skins do not improve its butt-ugliness.

Chimera, on the other hand, shows a great deal of promise. It will never be more than a browser, thankfully, with no junk such as an email app tacked onto it.

Oh yes, Chimera (uses the Gecko engine) is and will be Mac-ONLY, unlike that bloated steaming pile that is Mozilla.

I use iCab and OmniWeb (OmniWeb renders beautifully, by far the most attractive), iCab has more filtering capabilities than any browser on any platform and iCab's overall feature set is second to none. It even has a toolbar set named "Cupertino". I have a broadband connection and iCab beats the bloody hell out of every other browser out there, in terms of speed, on all my Macs. "Your Mileage May Vary."

And oh yes, these two best browsers, iCab and OmniWeb, are Mac-ONLY. Accept nothing less.



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