Submit Hint Search The Forums LinksStatsPollsHeadlinesRSS
14,000 hints and counting!


Click here to return to the 'Tiger has killed this feature!' hint
The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
Tiger has killed this feature!
Authored by: ChaChi on Oct 06, '05 10:24:15AM

In all previous versions of OSX (in the Finder) you could press "CMD + a" (to select all of the items in a folder in column view) and then you could press (and hold) the CMD key and "click + drag" through the items you wanted to unselect. There was no need to try to find an empty space in the name or anything of the sort! You could click and drag anywhere in the list, on any of the items, in either direction (up or down the list) to unselect the items in the middle.

Now, when you attempt to do the same thing in Tiger, you end up actually dragging the items and not unselecting them no matter where you click on the items!

Is this a bug or a new "feature" of Tiger? I really cannot stand the new behaviour AT ALL!



[ Reply to This | # ]
Tiger has killed this feature!
Authored by: RobertBen on Oct 06, '05 01:39:59PM

Didn't notice this because I hardly use Column View, (I find the view options in Column View too limited) the behaviour you're looking for does work in list view though.

Since you can switch really fast between the two view with Command-2 and Command-3 maybe this is an option for you?



[ Reply to This | # ]
Tiger has killed this feature!
Authored by: RobertBen on Oct 06, '05 01:44:27PM

And as a little ad-on, this works only if you don't drag on the icons themselves, but a nit to the right of them.

Takes a second to figure out, but once you get the feel of it it's o.k.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Workarounds are not solutions.
Authored by: ChaChi on Oct 06, '05 06:45:46PM

The second I start doing 2 or 3 extra steps to accomplish the same thing is when I feel like I've taking a couple (if not a few) steps backwards from improving an already great OS!

I do appreciate your time in trying to help find an alternate "solution" to this problem but I don't find adding steps to my daily workflow a solution.

Do you agree that this seems more like a bug than a feature? If the new behaviour is a feature what actual benefit does it provide us with? Do they want us to use list view now that they've started ironing out the bugs in it? I can't stand list view!



[ Reply to This | # ]
Workarounds are not solutions.
Authored by: RobertBen on Oct 07, '05 12:02:12AM

I experimented a bit more and it DOES work in Column View, your columns just have to be wide enough.

I do agree that this is far from elegant though, (you probably still have to make your columns wider) and I think that Shift-Command-Click would have been a much better solution...



[ Reply to This | # ]
I'll be damned!
Authored by: ChaChi on Oct 07, '05 03:34:18AM

I tried making my columns as wide as the screen and it wasn't working for me. Actually it doesn't even matter how wide the columns are it's just REALLY picky about HOW you start the middle drag.

I just got done experimenting some more myself and have found that you have to do the following:

(in column view of course)
1.) Select all of the items in a folder (Command + a)
2.) Press and hold the Command key down
3.) Click once on one of the middle items of the selection to deselect it
4.) Click ANYWHERE on the same item BUT THE NAME OR THE ICON and then start dragging

Then it does indead work.

I'm so much happier now that at least we've found a way to get this to work again. I just wish it was a little less picky about it. Actually I wish it was the way it used to be since I see no logical benefit to the change in the first place but at least it works.

Just curious, why would Command + Shift have been a better solution? What other purpose preexists for Command clicking and dragging items within a column view?



[ Reply to This | # ]
Tiger has killed this feature!
Authored by: mistersquid on Oct 09, '05 06:21:26AM

Since you can switch really fast between the two view with Command-2 and Command-3 maybe this is an option for you?

Hot diggity. I've been using Mac OS since System 6.x and I am stunned at how much I don't know few menu bar "hints." I'm a somewhat knowledgeable OS X user (run SSL-enabled Apache, BIND, VNC over SSH tunnel, PERL-and-AppleScript-assisted backup, etc.) so I don't really spend a lot of time in menu bars anymore. Yet so much functionality is stored there.

We really are at a stage where our computers and operating systems are arguably too complex. Small additions to features (e.g. Smart Folders) have massive ramifications that take years to fully register, and here I am and I've been clicking on Finder's toolbar widgets rather than Cmd-2 and Cmd-3.

Thanks for the tip.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Tiger has killed this feature!
Authored by: gullevek on Oct 07, '05 07:23:43AM

works for me in 10.4.2

cmd+a
and then cmd+mouse drag to unselect



[ Reply to This | # ]
You must have a special install of Tiger then.
Authored by: ChaChi on Oct 07, '05 12:25:50PM

Do me a favor gullevek:
-Go to any Library folder (or any folder that displays a scroll bar when selected in column view)
-Select all of the items in the folder (Command + a)
-Then try clicking and dragging on any item in the middle of the list

Are you saying that this works for you doing it exactly this way or are you selecting all and then Command + Clicking and dragging from under the selected items in a column view window that does not display a scroll bar?

I've used numerous computers with Tiger installed (10.4.2) and they all exhibit the same behavior. If this works for you then you have a special install of Tiger that I have not previously run across.



[ Reply to This | # ]