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Authored by: sjonke on Apr 29, '05 08:19:04AM
I'm embarrassed to say that I had the hint half wrong. The half that is right is that the playlist will update *and* survive a forced reset if you play something else (another playlist or whatever). What's wrong is that just pressing menu a bunch of times to go to the top level menu will also result in the playlist update surviving a reset - actually the playlist will appear to update, but it will not survive a reset - I got tricked again! Unfortunately this means there isn't a super-simple solution of just pressing menu a bunch of times. :(

However, I have come up with a workaround that is at least doable without looking at your iPod, but not as simple/convenient. The trick is that playing something else can also just be playing the same thing but via a different menu path. So...

Set your main menu to include "Playlists" if you haven't already. Now, whenever you play your smart playlist(s), start playing it via the top-level "Playlists" menu, not the "Music" menu. When you are done listening, press PAUSE to pause playback, press MENU 3 TIMES to get to the top-level menu. SCROLL UP (counter-clockwise). That will put you at the "Music" menu item and you don't have to look at it to know you're there as "Music" is always the top menu item. Now press SELECT 4 TIMES to start playback. The way the iPod works, this will automatically navigate you right back to the same playlist and start playback, but via the "Music" menu instead of the top-level "Playlists" menu. Lastly press PAUSE to stop playback again. The playlist will now be updated in such a way as to survive a reset.

In short:

For convenience for next time you might then want to press MENUx4 again to get back to the top-level menu, but that isn't necessary as far as getting the playlist update to survive a reset is concerned.

Definitely not as nice, but it does work and you can do it without looking. Now, hopefully I have a valid hint. :)

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Authored by: cheezmo on Jun 29, '05 11:40:00AM

It looks like the latest iPod firmware (1.2 for my iPod photo) completely breaks smart playlist updating on the iPod. One clue is that smart playlists now start playing immediately (it doesn't think to update them, etc.). Some testing I've done with navigating to the top, starting other playlists etc. proves to me they just aren't updating.

I even created a simple smart playlist based on rating. Changed the rating of a song, and it still appears on that playlist.

Very disappointing!

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