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Not smart
Authored by: Brak on Feb 17, '02 07:37:54PM

Now that this "tip" been unintelligently/thoughtlessly posted to the public it will be unlikely this simple of an action will be possible in the future. This has been done for years and was sort of an unrwitten loophole that everyone just sort of ignored.
What I mean by untelligently is now that this has officially been posted, future game and program developers will employ more complex copy protection so you are REQUIRED to use the ORIGIONAL CD and no other form of data storage, no backups, no images, no nothing. "What if my CD breaks or is damaged?" Well you will be screwed. Go buy another.

I really wish this had not been posted.



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Not smart
Authored by: ret on Feb 17, '02 08:34:31PM

Are you suggesting that:
a) this has never been posted on the internet before, and
b) game developers (and developers in general) for MacOS know so little about MacOS that they have all been completely unaware of this, and
c) it was 'just our little secret'?

Shame on you, Rob for letting the cat out of the bag ;-)

sheesh



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Common knowledge...
Authored by: robg on Feb 17, '02 09:36:08PM

If publication of this tip on macosxhints leads to changes in the way software developers package their product, then I've seriously underestimated the impact of the site! ;-)

Clearly, software developers know that both pirates and legitimate users know how to make disc images of their products. If they felt it was worth changing, they would have done so years ago.

As 'ret' pointed out, this is fairly common knowledge. I just felt that it was worth sharing here, especially for newcomers to OS X who travel with PowerBooks.

-rob.



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Give Me A Break
Authored by: wtbates on Feb 18, '02 12:44:41AM

Brak,

I don't want to get on your case too much, but c'mon. If you seriously believe what you wrote, then you have a lot to learn about life. Four comments, then I will get off of my soapbox:

1. There wil ALWAYS be a way to get around this problem .

2. Did you think that this was a big secret to anyone?

3. Copy protection is a big problem for software companies (and I work for one). Most companies realize that requiring the CD to stay in the drive is not a good or reliable means of copy protection and do not seriously think that it will deter thieves, so not much R&D will go into improving this particular method.

3. Beyond theft, there is a real need for this for honest folk who want to do this with their own software. They are not trying to be devious. Software companies also understand this (of course the next question to ask is, "Then why do they require the CD in the drive after a full installation of the product?" This is usually answered by the phrase, "...but we have always done it that way.")

Bottom line, I would not worry about this kind of post ruining it for us all. This is especially important to know for those out there that may have something else to share, but may be afraid of "the man" learnng our "secrets."

WB



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Not smart
Authored by: lamon on Feb 18, '02 06:07:55AM

Don't panic,

This is well known by companies and has been for years. A couple years ago, I bought a Encyclopaedia Brittanica CD (for PCs, nobody's perfect). The documentation pointed to an article on their official site for instructions on how to install everything on your hard drive. Actually, I think the protection-scheme wars of the Apple ][ old times is dead and those companies that want a real efficient copy-protection system will use a dongle or some other physical gadget. The others will not invest efforts in this.



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Not smart
Authored by: oink on Feb 18, '02 11:10:48AM

Hi Brak,
If this is your biggest secret, you have a lot to catch up. Any one who has ever made a floppy image will be able to figure this out by himself/herself. Do you think cdrom dvd publishers do not know about this already? Share knowledge, don't suppress it.



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