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Or try a less stupid browser
Authored by: VRic on Feb 12, '05 12:31:31PM

There should be no need for a hint to save something. If you can't do it like in every other app (Save: cmd-S), then the browser sucks.

Well, most do.

Every major browser basically destroys what it "saves", and/or makes stupidity statements while at it (IE re-downloads what's currently displayed, currently stored in RAM, currently stored in disk cache, others find cool to alter the content and relocate linked files, effectively destroying the page from a page author's perspective, etc.)

Safari 2 will save to "archives". Let's hope it's not a stupid archive format.

ALL browsers' authors except one should be ashamed of themselves after all these years. It should have been obvious from day one that the proper way to do this was to "save" to a non-proprietary "archive" file format.

Which is precisely what iCab has been doing all that time: a zip archive containing the exact hierarchy of files from that page.

It lets you save the current page with absolutely no alteration, meaning I can "save" some page of mine from my website and use that as, well, an archive of that page, to later use or modify, which no other browser allows without ridiculous wizardry (your text processor saves your documents unaltered, as you're most likely to want them later, if you want dumbed-down versions of them it's an option, but not the other way around).

This also means that pages saved using older versions of my browser, which didn't render properly, DISPLAY PERFERCTLY IN LATER VERSIONS with better CSS support for example.

Yet I don't suggest to switch to iCab, because I'm fed up with all the crap I'm hearing about "incomplete CSS2, blahblahblah, useless, blahblah" (which hopefully will end when preview 3 is released, as beta 3.0 has caught up on that front already). Instead I suggest you write to your browser's authors to ask for some basic iCab features like saving. How ridiculous is that?

And since no other browser seems to originate from such a brilliant individual as the single developer of iCab, you'll have to tell them how to do it cleverly: the single trick needed to save to standard unmodified zip archives and still retain full original paths, relative and absolute links functionality to data inside AND outside the archive, and instruct the browser of where to find the saved page's source -which may be burried in a deep hierarchy- is to save that file as the first one in the archive. The rest should be obvious from exploring or decompressing some iCab archives using Zipit or Stuffit Expander.

Also, iCab has a tool to convert IE's useless uncompressed proprietary archives to plain zip iCab archives. Of course other browsers require you to decompress those and hunt for the proper page's file and loose relative links to online data, but at least it can be done. Don't expect this from others, specially M$ that leaves IE users with no future way to read "saved" pages. How safe is saving to a proprietary file format? What's the point of saving universal cross-platform web pages to a single-app file format?

iCab has been my default browser from the days of NS 3, in part because it was and still is the only browser that saves properly. So it's of course perfectly usable, even if it requires a secondary browser at hand just in case, which isn't really different from others anyway. At least I'm not constantly *censored*ing about how stupid and crappy my browser is.

Hey! funny thing, that "censor" filter in the comments ;-)

By the way, don't start me on filtering, I see close to zero ad in iCab. With all the developers' not-so-cleverness in browsers and all the adds on the web, browsing has become a torture to me without iCab ;-)



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