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re: Apple software is not all that great
Authored by: echo mirage on Feb 01, '05 12:08:14PM

I must disagree on several points:

-- If GarageBand, iCal, Pages, iMovie and similar apps don't count as "great" to you, you're not Apple's target market there. Bearing in mind that the Mac was originally billed [and most successful] as "the computer for the rest of us," is it so surprising that iLife and similar apps are still designed that way? The ease-of-use for non-technophiles (read: people that don't post to technical tip sites) is what makes them great.

-- Logic, Shake and Final Cut not great? Ask -any- sound designer, compositor, or broadcaster with a Mac. At the [globally-known] design school I work for, we don't teach the "other stuff" too heavily in these apps' niches, which are not insignificant.

Don't forget the other software they put out. One of Apple's other little application suites you may have heard of, "OS X," _is_ great.

--j!mmy

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*Logic* is not all that great
Authored by: Shawn Parr on Feb 01, '05 05:26:52PM
Ask -any- sound designer, compositor, or broadcaster with a Mac.

I'm a Sound Designer and an Engineer. And I have owned several Macs.

I HATE working in Logic. Now, I know a lot of people seem to like it, but the few I know are looking at switching to Ableton Live 4, and the others who have been using it, but don't love it are looking at various other programs to switch to.

In the studio I use Protools, and I have used Logic, DP, and Sonic before as well. I currently do live recording for a TV show using Logic, as it is available, and I do not have a PT rig I would take to that location at this point (too many smokers to take the main rig there). Logic has to be the most inflexible mixing environment I have seen since Cakewalk/Sonar & Cubase/Nuendo, and if I need to make changes on the fly it literally feels like fighting the app to get it done. And yes I have set up the enviroment extensively for the situation.

I won't even go into how painful it can be if your hardware wasn't available when you launch Logic.

Logic 7 is especially bad, as with the distributed plug-in capabilities they really cause issues with plug-ins no longer being compatible, and it is way buggier than 6 is. Not very Apple like, IMHO.

Now if you want to talk FCP & Shake, yeah, those just simply rock. Some students I work with who are mainly taught Premiere are taking a class in FCP this semester, and they are amazed at how much more efficient of an environment it is to work in.

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