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Rate iTunes songs on a wider scale
Authored by: SC_shooter on Feb 01, '05 11:22:36AM

Why would you want to do this? I may be wrong (probably am) but you can't display this or even set up a playlist based the '95'.

Paul



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Rate iTunes songs on a wider scale
Authored by: stcanard on Feb 01, '05 12:29:22PM

I think the suggestion is that iTunes internal algortihms will take this into account.

So, for instance, although you can't see this, if you check Party Shuffles "Play higher rated songs more often", a song with a rating of 95 will be played very slightly more often than one with a rating of 90



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Rate iTunes songs on a wider scale
Authored by: SC_shooter on Feb 01, '05 03:17:50PM

Thanks for enlightening me.

It's a shame that iTunes won't let you choose to display and set the ratings with either the stars or the numeric rating. I'm not sure that I would go back and reset the rating on my library (~2500 songs) but it would nice to be able to do so in the iTunes display, if I wanted.



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Rate iTunes songs on a wider scale
Authored by: kramrm on Feb 01, '05 01:22:22PM

I had found out about this a while back while changing ratings using the Salling Clicker.

The following ratings are given though iTunes
0 stars = 0
1 star = 20
2 stars = 40
3 stars = 60
4 stars = 80
5 stars = 100

I had manually set a track to be 75. My play list was greater than 3 stars. This didn't include 3 star songs (rated at 60) but did include the songs rated 75, even though iTunes displayed them as 3 star songs.



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fine tuned, dynamic rating
Authored by: BlackJack on Feb 01, '05 05:27:25PM
I am using 2 AppleScripts to rate the currently playing song +5 if i like it better than the song before or -5 if not. That way the rating is more dynamic and it will force songs down again when they are heard too often.

Of course, this does require the discipline to rate as often as possible. Using Hotkeys or assigned mouse buttons (MX 700) does help. Romeo/Salling Clicker and a Bluetooth phone come in handy too.

The script for Rating +5:

tell application "iTunes"
	set this_track to current track
	set current_rate to rating of this_track
	if current_rate is equal to 0 then set current_rate to 50
	set new_rate to current_rate + 5
	if new_rate mod 2 is 1 then set new_rate to new_rate + 1
	if new_rate is greater than 100 then set new_rate to 100
	set rating of this_track to new_rate
end tell

As you can see, songs rated up always recieve an even score - this was intended for building a "hot tracks" playlist, but i haven't done this yet.

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fine tuned, dynamic rating
Authored by: taxi on Feb 02, '05 08:17:19AM
Yeah, that's the sort of stuff I like!

I'd like to have a remote control that I can press a (+) or (-) button to say "Yeah I still dig this song! Keep playing it" or "Nah, I'm kinda getting over this tune. There's only so many times I can hear about Golder Gaytimes..." and have a fluid rating system.

I've written a program which sits on the screen and allows percentage rating, you can find it at this page

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fine tuned, dynamic rating
Authored by: TMSIDRSchnapper on Feb 03, '05 07:58:46AM

Is there any way to do this automatically via Applescript?

E.g. when a song starts playing, decrease it's rating by 5. And when a song is finished playing, increase its rating by 10.

So your favourites would be rated up by 5 as soon as you let them finish, while songs that you skipped will get a lower rating by the time. Sounds pretty handy, uh?



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fine tuned, dynamic rating
Authored by: taxi on Feb 04, '05 07:38:10AM
There's apparently no way to find out when a song has just finished.

What you could do is have an application that controls iTunes, and you only use it to change songs. When the song changes (which you can only tell by polling every n seconds) and you didn't cause it, then up the rating. If you skip the song, drop the rating.

You could do this quite easily in AppleScript Studio. I'll (possibly) write this over the next couple of days. Subscribe to my RSS feed and I'll post an entry when I'm done.

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fine tuned, dynamic rating
Authored by: robartsd on Mar 23, '05 01:35:49AM

If the script saves the ID and play count for the current track, then it only needs to see if the play count has been incremented when it sees a new track playing. iTunes doesn't increment the play count that you skip before it finishes playing.



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fine tuned, dynamic rating
Authored by: taxi on Feb 06, '05 06:51:45AM
Done! See iTunes AutoRater.

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Rate iTunes songs on a wider scale
Authored by: Eponymous on Feb 04, '05 12:14:06AM

Read "The Paradox of Choice" to see why you might not want to do this.



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Rate iTunes songs on a wider scale
Authored by: taxi on Feb 06, '05 06:51:58AM

I don't think I've got it in my library. Can you elaborate on why having a wider range of possible ratings is bad?

With some of the comments that have been posted, like the idea to have a fluid rating system that up-rates songs that you listen to the whole song (or most of it) and down rates songs you skip them, finer grained ratings seem like a good idea.

I was already finding that I rated a heap of songs at 100%, and within that there were songs that weren't my 'absoloute' favourite-ist. (!)

I suspect that the size of my (and most other people's) iTunes collections are more likely to provide an example of "The Paradox of Choice" (from what I can gather from reading the Amazon.com review).

This is not intended as a flame - if there is a particular reason why that book is relevant to this tip/idea/argument, I'd love to hear it.



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