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TextWrangler: A full-featured (and now free) text editor
Authored by: gidds on Jan 20, '05 01:14:26AM

Mmm. As someone once said, EMACS isn't a bad OS, but to compete with Linux &c it needs a better text editor...

(Personally, I do quite a bit of fairly complicated editing, and I find vi's powerful regular-expression based commands invaluable. But for basic text entry, I rather like the simplicity of TextEdit.)

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TextWrangler: A full-featured (and now free) text editor
Authored by: merlyn on Jan 20, '05 08:32:13AM
You're dissing emacs because vi has "powerful regular expression commands"? Hey, emacs has those, and more. In fact, if you can't get your fingers out of "vi" mode, you can even emulate vi in an emacs buffer, and still have an emacs behind the scenes to do the rest of everything.

In fact, I haven't seen a single thing in this thread that emacs cannot do... and for free. Plus the fact that GNU emacs has a huge community behind it, so you can get books, websites, help sheets, bolt-ons, commercial training, etc etc. There's nothing even close to this in the OSX world.

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TextWrangler: A full-featured (and now free) text editor
Authored by: wdnx on Jan 20, '05 11:38:35AM
In fact, I haven't seen a single thing in this thread that emacs cannot do...

Here's something I haven't seen it do yet: Get its fans to stop talking about it like it's the second coming.

I used to use emacs all the time before I switched to the mac, but at the time I switched, there wasn't a very good version to be had for OS X (the terminal version felt very wrong, and carbonised emacs was very young and fairly buggy), so I switched over to vim, and you know what? It wasn't the end of the world... Sure, I had to learn some new commands, but you get the basics down in a day or so (actually, I found that I liked the vim style of commands a little bit more). For tips and add-ons vim.org was quite helpful for a guy just starting out.

Now I use TextMate. Why? Because it feels o bit more like home to me. And also because I'm not going to treat some text editor like it's a religion.

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TextWrangler: A full-featured (and now free) text editor
Authored by: lrivers on Jan 20, '05 04:14:20PM

You are funny! I rarely crack up reading comments, but I did reading yours, glad I wasn't drinking anything at the time!



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TextWrangler: A full-featured (and now free) text editor
Authored by: jen729w on Jan 20, '05 09:42:44PM

Yeah, and if I recall correctly, the fancy carbon version is something like 170MB!? Christ alive! You'd want it to wake you up in the morning with a cup of tea for that.*

j.
*I believe it does this, with this simple emacs command: ctrl-hyphen-space, wait fourteen seconds, hold down "x" and blow your nose simultaneously, then repeat "I believe in emacs" thirty six times.



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