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A fix for a Firefox/Download Status Bar quit bug
Authored by: hardcoreUFO on Nov 11, '04 02:03:35PM

I honestly dont see why mac folks are heaping such praise on this browser. It is essentially a Windows/Linux project that adds OSX as an afterthought. I pulled down the 1.0 release, and discovered really shoddy page rendering -- much of versiontracker, for example had a big white, empty box in the upper left corner. The nightly fixed some of the rendering problems, but cannot install extensions! Import does *nothing*. I really dont get it. With all of the Mac browsers to choose from, why this one? If you want mozilla, try Camino, if you want features galore, try OmniWeb, if you want raw speed, try Opera, for intergration, stick with Safari. I dont see how firefox trumps any of these browsers.

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A fix for a Firefox/Download Status Bar quit bug
Authored by: robg on Nov 11, '04 03:26:28PM
Not sure about others, but for me, it's:
  • Speed.

  • Tab handling capabilities

  • User themable

  • Extensions -- the biggie. No other browser is so easily extensible. For me, I rely on the following:
    • Sage - RSS reader
    • DownloadStatusBar - Easily track file downloads in the bottom of the browser window
    • AdBlock - The best ad blocker, though OmniWeb's is good, too
    • Web Developer - No similar tool for any other browser; absolutely essential if you do web development work
    • ScrapBook - A decent replacement for the one IE feature I miss -- the sidebar scrapbook of interesting things
    There are more that I use, and literally hundreds of others, but those are the key ones.

  • Rendering - Despite your experience, I find Firefox to have some of the better page rendering. OmniWeb is now Safari, so they behave the same. And when I tested VersionTracker with my 1.0 (non-nightly) build, it looked just fine.

  • Support for Command-Z in text boxes -- Safari won't let you undo a change in a text box, Firefox (and others, I'm sure) will.
But that's the beauty of OS X -- pick a browser you like, and be happy with it. Firefox is my first choice, Safari a close second, and OmniWeb third. OmniWeb would probably be first with just a few tweaks (please let me have a traditional tab bar again!), but for now, Firefox is my fave.

According to a recent poll, though, there are actually relatively few of us that prefer Firefox -- Safari has a commanding lead in the OS X browser market.


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A fix for a Firefox/Download Status Bar quit bug
Authored by: adrianm on Nov 11, '04 06:09:30PM

My problem with Firefox is that it doesn't use keychain and by default, anyone with physical access to your mac can see all the passwords it has stored in one go.

Setting the master password is optional and a good step, but it still shows ALL passwords when unlocked.

To me, that makes Firefox unacceptible for general use.

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A fix for a Firefox/Download Status Bar quit bug
Authored by: _merlin on Nov 12, '04 07:16:02AM

I use Safari for general browsing, but for web development I need FireFox. Overall, FireFox seems to have the most complete implementation of XHTML and CSS. I develop against the standard, and make it work in FireFox. Then I use browser sniffing to alter the style sheets (and sometimes the pages, too) to make it work in Safari and IE for Windows. (Safari usually only needs very minor changes. However, IE often needs huge changes to work around bugs, and even then it doesn't really work properly.)

Also, the Web Developer WAP browser extensions are very useful.

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