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Why not the main Library/Appliation Support folder
Authored by: jecwobble on Nov 05, '04 12:31:49PM

Couldn't you just put it in the Library -> Application Support -> WinSwitch folder so that it's automatic for all users?



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LCC is not a real startup daemon! No OWF/boot keys availible!
Authored by: zahadum on Nov 05, '04 07:08:30PM

I am not sure what the exact problem you guys are having with Fast User Switching using LCC on Panther - i dont have any freezes etc.

Please elaborate!

But here is my gripe (yeah Logitech has always been lame at driver support!) ...

LCC runs in user-space ... it dont think it is even a kext! ...

even if it is is kext, it lacks BASIC compatibility for using open firmware key commands at startup (eg single user, verbose console mode, saftey mode, designate CDROM as boot volume, select boot volume, presumably also Target mode) ....

at least on their entry-level 'Internet Explorer' model, this lack of OFW support is a shocking obstacle when trying to trouble-shoot (eg with NDD).

since this is a 'pre-driver' issue (the computer will _run_ with the logitech kb just fine; it just wont handle boot-specific modes), i suspect that maybe all of logitech hardware is a lost cause for the mac (in trems of hard-core, low-level compatibility) ...

more feedback about LCC issues would be appreciated!


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LCC is not a real startup daemon! No OWF/boot keys availible!
Authored by: stephenj on Nov 05, '04 09:18:41PM

The problem with LCCDaemon and fast user switching is that once one instance of LCCDaemon is running all special keys on your keyboard will only apply to the first user running it...

Kinda a pain for example.
Second user hits the Media button, iTunes launches in the first account. So the second user launches iTunes manually and the first account has total control of the iPod plugged in and the second user is out of luck...

I think you can think of even more creative problems, like email programs or Instant Message programs...

And yes you are quite correct in that the keyboard doesn't send the proper keycodes to openfirmware like the option key doesn't even begin to work till the login screen is active...

Hence why my apple pro keyboard sits near my machine for the single user mode boots...

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LCC is not a real startup daemon! no OWF/boot keys availible! / do bluetooth kb cmnd key boot?
Authored by: zahadum on Nov 07, '04 02:01:15PM

thanx for clarifying the fast-user aspect of LCC ...

it seems insane to have to have a wired apple kb standing by for emergencies!

what about bluetooth? ... i wouldnt mind having having an apple keyboard around if it actually did something useful at runtime (like wireless) ...

do the the startup keys work with blurtooth (apple or otherwise)?

i know - slightly off-topic ;-)

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LCC is not a real startup daemon! no OWF/boot keys availible! / do bluetooth kb cmnd key boot?
Authored by: stephenj on Nov 08, '04 07:09:03AM

< it seems insane to have to have a wired apple kb standing by for emergencies!
yeah but it's needed sadly...
< do the the startup keys work with blurtooth (apple or otherwise)?
apple is pretty much promised to work with openfirmware, but logitech i wouldn't recommend..
< i know - slightly off-topic ;-)
yes but this is a hints site...

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Why not the main Library/Appliation Support folder
Authored by: stephenj on Nov 05, '04 09:14:23PM

If you're talking about the main /Library folder no you cannot do that, according to WinSwitch's documentation you have to put in users Library/Application Support/WinSwitch folders...

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Why not the main Library/Appliation Support folder
Authored by: eno on Nov 06, '04 06:06:25PM
From the docs: "To try out the sample scripts, drag, copy or make an alias in the appropriate folder. Note that the sample scripts are installed globally (for all users) in the "/Library/" hierarchy, but that to use them you must install them locally (for the current user only) in the "~/Library/" hierarchy in your home folder." I guess because switch-in/switch-out actions are generally per-user preferences.

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