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Authored by: azraq27 on Sep 10, '04 01:15:19PM

I'm coming from Unix, so I knew about the shutdown/reboot commands, but I wonder if there is a cleaner way of doing this. I run into this problem myself constantly. I try killing all the processes I can (and usually end up just crashing the computer), but have never gotten anything to work.

Does anyone know what is causing this, if anything beyond just a generic hung process? Does anyone have any tips on how to find the process that is hung?



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Authored by: ber on Sep 10, '04 02:51:29PM

I've found 80% of the time my machine hangs (spinning beach ball) I can recover by killing coredservicesd. That usually let's me save files and quit applications (avoiding messed up preferences). Then I do a Restart...

brian



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Authored by: audiluv on Sep 10, '04 04:14:53PM

Often the problem process is hogging the cpu. You can use top to find out which one.

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Authored by: johnsawyercjs on Sep 14, '04 03:45:26AM

I've been dealing with this failure of OS X to sometimes shut down/restart/log out fairly frequently; sometimes the problem disappears, only to return later. I have several volumes running on my B&W G3, with different versions of OS X on each one (10.2.8, 10.3.3, 10.3.5), and currently the version that has this problem is 10.3.3. I've done a lot of searching for answers, on Apple Discussions, Macfixit, etc., and several causes and fixes have been found, but none work for me. Anyway, some typical causes are any of the Norton software (Norton Utils, Norton Antivirus--disable all of this and see what happens); Classic still running; network volumes still mounted; some dumb daemon; etc. For some people, reinstalling the OS X Combo updater helps, and for others, repairing the hard drive's directory and/or permissions fixes this. Not for me. I've determined that it's nothing in the Users folder, nor in /Library, which leaves /System, and the invisible files. Next step is to try the experiment where I install a clean OS 10.3.3 on another volume, then start moving its files to the problem volume until the problem volume once again can restart/shut down/log out--the last file I move over that fixes the problem, will be the culprit (if it turns out to be that "easy").



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