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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: d00d on Sep 08, '04 07:33:43PM

I want to like Omniweb, I really do. There are two things holding me back:

  1. I hate the thumbnail tabs. I hate that they're vertical. I hate that they take up so much space. Call me a purist. Call me stubborn. I want regular tabs. With favicons would make it even nicer.
  2. Don't just leave a blank space where ads were. Take them out entirely or give an option to. I make my own carefully crafted regular expression rules and I'm not concerned about false positives or pages looking different.

If I could have those two things, I'd plunk my $30 immediately with no hesitation.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: disenchanted on Sep 08, '04 10:42:14PM

me too. i HATE their version of adblocking. I sent them an email describing my hatred for it and how to improve it (which was almost exactly what was stated above) and they replied back and said that most users arent advanced enough to figure out that there are no ads on the page because of the built in adblocker. So they opt to keep the boxes and pop up the urls whenever you mouse over them. I think id rather have the ads. its just as intrusive, especially when you get the mouse over pop up.

for that sole reason I do not use it. Pith helmet for safari is sooo much better than omniwebs adblocker.

and one other reason why i dont use it:

It wont load gmail!!!!!



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: hombre on Sep 09, '04 01:25:12AM

I am baffled by this view of the tabs. They only take up horizontal space, of which I have a surplus, and, compared to Safari, they actually free up vertical space which, it seems to me, is perennially in short supply. Plus, you can make them smaller, anyway, by using the list view instead (though I understand some "traditionalists" will still not be able to adjust to the different orientation). I much prefer the OmniWeb tab scheme to Safari's. When I find myself back in Safari from time to time and have to deal with what strikes me as a primitive approach to tabs, I actually feel disheartened.

On the other hand, I abhor the ad-blocking. It is shamefully inelegant in my view. Safari + PithHelmet is a vastly superior solution to ads.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: d00d on Sep 10, '04 12:58:31AM

The thing is though, I don't like widescreen. I have a regular aspect 20" LCD display (a Formac) and I use a Powerbook 12". The excessive horizontal space taken by the tabs (even in list mode) are a nuisance to me. As for Safari tabs taking up vertical space, they take at most, what, like 10-15 pixels? That's a far cry from Omniweb's huge amount on the side and I don't find it significant enough to make a difference. Further, I read side to side. Reading down a list vertically feels like a chore.

Most of this is personal preference I'll admit. But if they want me to be a paying customer, they better cater to what I want. The free alternatives already do. Just give me the option. I don't care if their style is even the default. I just want traditional tabs. It's non-negotiable if they want my $30.



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vertical tabs
Authored by: sjk on Sep 10, '04 06:46:36PM
Further, I read side to side. Reading down a list vertically feels like a chore.

Yep, that's a nicely succinct description of what I wrote earlier about "too much eye motion shifting focus of attention" with OW5's vertical tabs.

That may be contributing to objections some people have with the implementation even when they don't specifically express it. I haven't seen any indication from OmniGroup that they feel this is a significant usability issue for certain (potential) customers, where the benefits simply aren't compelling enough to overcome weaknesses.

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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: JKT on Sep 09, '04 08:25:56AM
For those of you who wish to use a stylesheet solution to ad blocking, etc. copy/paste the following into Terminal:
defaults write com.omnigroup.omniweb5 OWUserStyleSheetLocation "file:///path/to/stylesheet"
Then replace the path/to/stylesheet with the path to your custom stylesheet and press enter to execute it. This is obviously an unsupported solution, but it does indicate that Omnigroup are at least considering including custom stylesheet selection for inclusion in later versions of OW.

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