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Games on a Mac?
Authored by: wax66 on Aug 23, '04 12:04:17PM

I play small games on my Mac, mostly as a distraction from work, as a Mac is better for productivity.
However, if you're a true hardcore gamer, you play on a PC, period. Not because of better performance (tho it has that), not because you dare to live with the crashes, headaches, and frustrations (tho it has that), not because hardware is easy to upgrade, and usually cheaper than Mac hardware (tho it has that). No, it all comes down to one thing... games released for the PC so far this year? 5 gajillion +... games released for the Mac so far this year? Not enough.
I've had talks with both developers for Mac games and publishers for Mac games. It really has little to do with how difficult (or easy) it is to develop for the Mac, as most of the developers I've talked to say they'd love to do it. It just has to do with cost/benefit of the publishing of the game. If you spend time repackaging, supporting, and updating a game that only ships 50k units (compared with a PC's 500k or more units on a kinda decent selling game, not like Doom 3), you're barely breaking even (according to sources at MacPlay, this is what generally happens), which is why Mac games are more expensive per box usually.
So I live with my crashy, ugly, M$ infested PC because I have to. But at least I have the choice of 5 gajillion games so that when I get bored with one in 5 minutes I can pop down to my local Frys and buy 20 more.



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Games on a Mac?
Authored by: hartkeks on Aug 23, '04 12:23:18PM

Hrm, Macplay shouldn't whine about the possible cost for supporting/updating a game that sold 50k units only ...
Check out VT reviews of MacPlay games too see



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Games on a Mac?
Authored by: robg on Aug 23, '04 12:39:43PM

Ah, but there you have a nice Catch-22 ... if everyone takes your approach, then the Mac market will never sell more than 50K units, because even as the user base increases, people still keep playing on their PCs. Mac game publishers won't be able to win.

My approach: I use my PC only for games that I can't find on the Mac. For instance, Far Cry, which was an awesomely fun first person shooter. It may some *year* make it to the Mac, but I'm not holding my breath. Other major titles, though, if I know they're coming to the Mac, I'll hold out for the Mac versions -- Doom3 is a good example.

Sometimes, though, my impatience gets the best of me, and I end up buying a version for each platform :)

-rob.



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Games on a Mac?
Authored by: wax66 on Aug 23, '04 02:56:18PM

> Ah, but there you have a nice Catch-22 ... if everyone takes your approach, then the Mac market will never sell more than 50K units, because even as the user base increases, people still keep playing on their PCs. Mac game publishers won't be able to win.

True, but games aren't usually what sells the computers. If the user base increases to the point where selling games to that platform is more profitable, then it should work out. Whenever I can I buy Mac versions of my games. However, the games I usually like to play either don't come out for the Mac (most MMOGs), or when they do are not compatible with the PC versions (Damn you Sony for the EQ:Mac debacle!), or they don't have a distinct Mac version box (Diablo 2). Now I'm not saying all games that people can get on both platforms support the 'Mac ideal', but it's VERY difficult.

> My approach: I use my PC only for games that I can't find on the Mac. For instance, Far Cry, which was an awesomely fun first person shooter. It may some *year* make it to the Mac, but I'm not holding my breath. Other major titles, though, if I know they're coming to the Mac, I'll hold out for the Mac versions -- Doom3 is a good example.

How could you possibly hold out for Doom3? You sicko! ;-)
I've gotten it, and I think am pretty close to the end. Mac version should be out sometime after I beat it. However, I think they're not going to release a Mac-only boxed version (I think Hollenshead said that in one of his .plans), which means you're waiting for no reason... :-(



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Games on a Mac?
Authored by: wax66 on Aug 23, '04 03:02:52PM

Oops, he was talking about no Linux boxed version... Mac will hopefully be boxed, and I'll definitely purchase it, even if I never play it on my Mac.

"Mac and Linux: Unfortunately I don't have dates for either of these. However, Linux binaries will be available very soon after the PC game hits store shelves. There are no plans for boxed Linux games."



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