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Authored by: Frederico on Jun 20, '04 11:14:46PM

Ben, by using Panther's Keyboard PP, all you are doing is assigning a keystroke which will show in the menu, just as though Entourage had done so, and the keystroke invokes the very same access to the ASS via Entourage. The reason my solution works is that KM, as a running background application, has its own ASS engine/access to execute the scripts.

The bug is certainly within Entourage (surprise); though the conflict came about when OS X took a more active role (starting with the modified Universal Access) of "listening" for keystrokes and taking advanced action upon them.

The bad news is that the behavior persists (surprise again) in Entourage 2004.

There are other keystroke managers you can use besides KM to do the same thing, if you prefer a different attack (or price) to gain the same target.

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Authored by: beneden on Jun 21, '04 05:10:08AM
Federico, Thanks for explaining! No surprise that Entourage is the culprit - and too bad no change in 2004. (Of course, new apps aren't usually newly coded from the ground up.. but the expectation always is there..) (Actually, I keep being surprised how well Entourage manages complex tasks / volumes of data - so far I haven't had single data loss, when I exclude Palm synchronization, where the culpa might be shared.) I can't imagine using any other program - in fact there are no competitors for integrated email/pim. If there's a free utility you could suggest for above problem, I'm all ears. Best, Ben Photojournalist and Wedding Photographer, London, UK

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Authored by: Frederico on Jun 22, '04 01:50:57AM

I have not personally played with any of the free utilities since KM (formerly Program Switcher under legacy Mac OS) became native to OS X; before then I used to use Youpi Key (whose name has since changed). A quick look on VersionTracker returned two pages of results on the keyword 'shortcut'; keyword 'hot key' turned up several more. Many are free; many are shareware; some are even crippleware that have unpaid modes where they will perform limited actions until you pay for a registration.

One often overlooked utility for this purpose is FruitMenu, which, while a bit more tedious to assign keystrokes and manage hot keys, does at least give you a lot of bang for the buck, given that it also adds a powerful Apple Menu replacement, as well as a Contextual Menu plugin to add numerous powerful features and functions.

Hit VT and d/l all the free ones to try them out; you may find them adequate for your needs, or you might try some of the share or commercial wares, and find features and enhancements to your Mac life you didn't know you could live without.

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Authored by: Frederico on Jun 22, '04 01:52:08AM

ack. Mark that last line 'couldn't'. -- F

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Authored by: beneden on Jun 22, '04 04:42:24AM

>ack. Mark that last line 'couldn't'. -- F

Hi Frederico,

Thanks again. FruitMenu note taken.

As to your ack.. I think it's valid both ways, actually:)



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Authored by: Frederico on Jun 27, '04 03:08:58AM

I just discovered Yet Another Utility that handles script execution via keystroke, if desired: the excellent Drop Drawers. I must say, I'm embarrassed to admit that I have no idea how long this feature has been a part of the program. I use it extensively as an application launcher for all those apps I use which I do not use often enough to give a keystroke shortcut; having a visual pop-up(out/over/down/etc) of applications in any given group is much nicer, IMHO, than sorting through your applications directories.

It can also host a myriad of things from clippings to aliases, sounds and movies, and more. It even does one more thing that I sorely miss from the Legacy Mac OS Popup (tabbed) Finder windows, and that is to allow a folder alias to act as a proxy for drag'n'drop operations. If only it could allow a drawer to act exactly as an old fashioned Legacy Popup, displaying its contents and allowing sorting and access as a Finder window does It does, at least allow for contextual access to a folder's contents.

Now that I know it also does keystrokes and rapid script execution, I will probably shift a large chunk of KM's usage to it, if only because it has a much more elegant setup interface. KM still provides invaluable window switching options (Cntrl-Tilde per focussed app), even if its app switching option has been effectively killed as of Panther (although it still offers advanced enhanced features there, too). It also hosts a nifty multiple clipboard feature, too. KM also allows for application-specific keystroke isolation (as does Panther KB PP, MenuMaster), which Drop Drawers apparently cannot.

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