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Record and playback high definition TV signals
Authored by: EatingPie on Apr 29, '04 03:14:12PM

Just a few quick answers to some questions raised before....

> "Can you get a firewire box from your satellite provider as well? Or is this only for cable?"

The FCC mandate only applies to cable operators. And to date, no satellite providers have firewire implemented yet. Dish was going to but cancelled it, VOOM has no plans, and I'm not sure what's up with DirectTV.

A company called will hack certain Dish and DirectTV equipment to give you firewire out, but the price ain't cheap.

> "what about just playback of the firewire input, instead of record/playback,
what would you use?"

You'd have to go trial / error on this. The new Final Cut HD *may* do this, but that depends on its ability to understand MPEG2 TS data... I would say the same for iMovie as well.

> "The last I heard they would not install a HD box without the presence of an HD set and would not release one to a customer for self installation."

Plain and simple, LIE! Worse thing that can happen, the guy won't install the box. If your installer hooms and haws, just say you're GETTING the HDTV "this week" and wanted the box ahead of time. As long as you've got an S-Video out on the box, it will work with a regular SDTV (though you won't see the HDTV channels).

I am not one for deception, but sometimes hard and fast rules are unfair... I'd only lie if you, the customer, understand that you'll get no support from your provider if something gets horked.

> "The encryption scheme agreed on by all parties involved is called 4C..."

Actually, it's 5C. Also known as DTCP.

Just a little nitpicking. :)

In my area, Time Warner kept referring to "DTCP" and I thought they meant "HDCP." My reply was "Um, that's for DVI, not Firewire." (I always knew it as just "5C") Fortunately, I eventually realized I was wrong and apologized.

Firewire, IEEE 1394, 5C, DTCP, DTLA, DVI, HDCP, HDMI, SA, Moto, MPEG2 TS, MPEG2 PS, SDTV, HDTV...

No. It's not confusing. Not at allllllll..... :)



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Record and playback high definition TV signals
Authored by: vansie on Apr 29, '04 08:29:19PM

> Actually, it's 5C. Also known as DTCP.

They're so damn close together those keys, eh =P I didn't even notice my typo until later. 5C it is.

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Record and playback high definition TV signals
Authored by: trugel on Dec 18, '04 12:42:56AM

You seem to really know your stuff so I'm hoping you can help.

I have been able to follow this site's instructions and can record from an over-the-air antenna connected to my Mitsubishi firewire equiped tv connected to my powerbook G4. However, I now want to be able to record from my cable box (Cablevision). I have a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4200 HD. The recorded program is about 1Gig smaller than the programs that I've recorded from the over-the-air antenna and it does not play back correctly (synching, pixalization, data overruns, etc.). Any ideas on how to fix this?


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