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copy of OmniDiskSweeper ?
Authored by: robg on Nov 18, '03 08:41:40AM
Answer: They both have similar ancestors. DarkForest was a NEXT utility that looked identical to both Omni's DiskSweeper and WhatSize. It took me a few searches, but I eventually found a screenshot of DarkForest for NEXT. Edit: This one is even better...

In case you're thinking that the author of DarkForest went to Omni and/or they licensed the code, that's not correct. DarkForest was written by one Garth Snyder, and Ken Case himself wrote Omni's DiskSweeper (originally called OmniDiskUsage) in 1998 [reference].

So yes, Omni's code was "first" on OS X, but it wasn't original even at that time. WhatSize is just another implementation of DarkForest, and the author admits as much on the WhatSize page. So of course, they're nearly identical, as they both have the same "parent." But to call WhatSize a copy of Omni's product is to skip over the fact that Omni's product is a copy of DarkForest.

Before selecting WhatSize as a PotW, I was scanning the comments on VersionTracker to see what others thought (usually good for some tidbits), and found this quote:
The second main difference is that omnidisksweeper has an unforgiving destructive delete, although it gives you a warning, it doesn't send stuff to trash, it permanently deletes on the spot. WhatSize is far more forgiving of stupid moves, you not only get a warning, but if after ignoring the warning you still regret deleting something, just open the trash.
I haven't purchased DiskSweeper, so I can't verify this, but if it's true, that's a solid vote for WhatSize in my book.

Two programs, one parent, similar operations, but nobody's stealing from anyone other than the fact that they both borrowed look and feel from DarkForest :).

-rob.

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DarkForest itself was a copy of Bacon!
Authored by: thereitis on Nov 18, '03 04:44:32PM

Nice historics but I will add a precision.
DarkForest was written in 1992 by a NeXT employee, Garth Snyder (and has the NeXT copyright).
But itself was a copy of an older NeXT internal utility called Bacon!
Though Bacon was never seeded outside (it was a little bit buggy), DarkForest was made available on the usual FTP sites.
But it's Bacon that originated that very usefull interface.
And no, you can't do the same in the Finder because you would have to wait for the counting in each folder and when you'd be in a new folder you would loose the counting of the precedent!
In the utilities everything is recorded. You have an instant photography of your hard drive. Its interest is intimately associated with the column view. Use it in list view can be interesting for a small amount of files but a non sense for an full hard disk!



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DarkForest itself was a copy of Bacon!
Authored by: robg on Nov 18, '03 09:04:33PM

Wow, thanks for the expanded history lesson! Interesting that it traces that far back...

-rob.



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