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So one might find this neat, but what use does it really have?
Authored by: hamarkus on Oct 30, '03 11:53:07AM

I've tried this feature with thirdparty software (e.g. Cocktail) in Jaguar, but I can't really see any use for it. It might make for a less cluttered look of the Dock, since some of the apps (the not-hidden ones) are then displayed more prominently, but it is normally the hidden apps I most often want to access, since they are ones with open windows.

You could use it maybe to create a two-level dock, by always hiding your second-level apps, and not hiding your main ones, but that it is not what the hide command was thought for: getting stuff out of your way.

Sorry for the rant, but I am really curious what it would be good for.

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So one might find this neat, but what use does it really have?
Authored by: robg on Oct 30, '03 12:00:14PM

Useful example:

I usually open four or five Safari windows, each with anywhere from four to 14 tabs. When I want them out of the way, I hide Safari. Without this hack, I might think Safari is just running with no windows open, as its icon looks identical to all the rest. When I click it, I get all five windows instantly cluttering the screen again.

With this hack, I know I have Safari hidden, and I'm much less likely to click on it -- so my hidden windows stay hidden.


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ok, but ...
Authored by: hamarkus on Oct 30, '03 02:46:16PM

Thanks, I agree that one is somehow warned by that feature that some windows will show up when clicking on a programs icon and that one could use this as a visual hint that there is still unfinished work (open windows) in a certain application.

But I still don't understand why knowing that an app (e.g. Safari) has open windows would make you less likely to click on it.

If I click on the Mozilla icon, I do this to open a webpage, knowing that there are already several open Mozilla windows would not stop me from doing this. If I want to open a webpage I have to click on its icon, there is no way around it (actuallly there is, I could use another browser, but I don't think that is the point).

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ok, but ...
Authored by: babbage on Oct 30, '03 10:56:50PM

My thinking is kind of the other way around from what Rob described: when I hide an app with many open windows, I like that the dock icon also goes translucent.

Of the windows that remain visible, it's fairly easy to glance at the dock, note the dark triangles, and know which windows are currently on the desktop and which ones are hidden.

When everything is overlapped and you can only see a sliver of some windows -- if that much -- this can be useful.

If you want to clear off some space, the same trick can apply -- the Finder is already hidden but Safari & Terminal are both unhidden. I'm not using Terminal at the moment, let's get those five windows out of the way for a little while. Etc.


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