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This hint should be corrected
Authored by: VRic on Oct 06, '03 08:33:41PM

Read near the top (xteph on Mon, Oct 6 '03 at 01:14PM). He covered the issue: this hint's title is inappropriate and should be corrected.

If you manage to save the movie without deep magic and dedicated apps, then it's not a stream (a stream would save as a very small reference file, not the movie itself).

If it's playing before DL is complete, then the author allowed the "fast start" option, this is different from streaming (streaming plays in real time and requires dedicated server software, fast start lets the client start playing as soon as it believes to have received enough data to finish DL in the background before playing the end of movie).

You can tell the difference by looking at the timeline: it fills while loading a non-streaming file. You have to wait till it is full before saving it.

If you registered QT Pro but can't save a complete non-streaming movie, then the author of the page didn't want you to save it, or the author of the movie didn't want you to edit it.

Those can still be found in the cache or downloaded like any other file, just not edited if the authors didn't want that.

Streams are a whole different animal: the QT streaming server is designed to adapt to the network conditions, as is MPEG-4, so that in theory the data you get doesn't reflect the content of an existing file, but rather a subset of it based on the available bandwith and your renderer capabilities. You can't download a stream because it's not handed by a download protocol, it's a "push" protocol with client feedback. Saving the data requires dedicated hackery disguised as a stream client, and then again the data shouldn't be the content of the file on the server. The only "real" way to save the original would be to hack your way into the server storage to copy the file, not play it.

Other streaming protocols are dumber and simpler because they really are just "sequential downloaders".



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This hint should be corrected
Authored by: kman on Oct 07, '03 12:54:01AM

Absolutely! This method does not work with true streams. Go to Apple's QuickTime movie trailer webpage and try this. The hint about looking for hidden QTPluginTemp### files does seem to work with everything though.



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