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Problems Launching XDarwin
Authored by: brainyboy7 on Oct 15, '01 05:33:35PM

Hi. I'm a total Unix newbie. I just installed XFree86 using Fink and am anxious to start playing with window managers. I can start the XDarwin environment by launching the Mac OS X XDarwin application. Everything works fine. When I try to launch XDarwin from the Terminal, however, it reports a nonspecific error with xinit and cannot continue. (This is using the command "startx -- -quartz"). When I login as console and type "startx", XDarwin starts, gets to "Display Method: IOKit", and freezes. I'm sure I'm making some ridiculous newbie error and that this has been explained 1000 times, but all your help is really appreciated. Thanks a lot,
Jeremy
brainyboy7@yahoo.com



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Problems Launching XDarwin
Authored by: brainyboy7 on Oct 15, '01 06:44:05PM

While I'm at it... 2 more things... When using XDarwin (launched from Mac OS X app), three different terminal windows appear on the screen... One runs the entire length of the left-hand side, one occupies about 60 percent of the right, and the third takes up the bottom 40 percent on the right. Only the left window seems to be active, and the text extends beyond the bottom of my screen. It is virtually unusable because I can't see what's going on below the bottom of the screen. How can I adjust these dimensions/margins? Also, an unrelated question: when I login as >console, it tells me I have 10 mail messages. These are messages returned to me when I tried to use my system as an SMTP server (without success). How can I delete them? Thanks a lot,
Jeremy



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Problems Launching XDarwin
Authored by: adrianu on Oct 16, '01 05:53:51PM


Here's a couple of web pages that might help.


For info about downloading and installing XFree86 & XDarwin, as well as links to some very helpful forums devoted to these topics:

http://wrench.et.ic.ac.uk/adrian/software/oroborosx/X11onOSX.html


For some troubleshooting tips I've put put together regarding problems with XDarwin:

http://wrench.et.ic.ac.uk/adrian/software/oroborosx/faq.html

Hope that helps!

Adrian



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Problems Launching XDarwin
Authored by: brainyboy7 on Oct 16, '01 07:59:36PM

Thank you so much!!! I tried all the Orobus troubleshooting tips, and one of them certainly worked! It's great! I love it! Thanks again! Sorry for being a little overly excited... I've been stewing about this a long time...)
Jeremy



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I Spoke In Haste
Authored by: brainyboy7 on Oct 16, '01 08:43:18PM

Well, apparently I spoke too soon. XDarwin now launches properly in the Quartz environment, but it still will not launch when logged in as console. It gets to the Display Method: IOKit stage and feezes, as before. Any ideas on this specifically? It seems odd to me that XDarwin should work so perfectly in conjunction with OS X, but not at all when running in the pure Darwin environment. Also, could you briefly tell me how to scroll up in an XDarwin terminal window with no scroll bars? The up arrow cycles through previous commands, and no other combination of keys I've tried seems to work. Thanks a lot,
Jeremy



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I Spoke In Haste
Authored by: adrianu on Oct 17, '01 05:34:25AM

Hmmm... that is odd! I suggest you look for any error messages in the output and post to one of the forums I link to on the "Introduction to X11 on OSX" page (probably the XDarwin one is worth starting with).

With regard to the terminals, I presume you are talking about 'xterm' -this is a standard terminal program that comes with X11. It is very basic.

Unfortunately, X11 has a history which is based upon three mouse buttons. To scroll an xterm you have to click in the scroll bar with the left button for down, the right button for up, and the middle button allows you to drag to a specific place.

OK, I know what you're thinking... you have only one button...

Well, XDarwin emulates middle and right clicks using modifier keys: option-click and command-click.
Try it and see...

P.S. one thing to beware of: in X11 the middle button is often used to paste. This rather silly choice does tend to make it somewhat too easy to paste loads of junk you've just selected into an xterm, or xedit, or just about anything... so beware!

Adrian



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I Spoke In Haste
Authored by: adrianu on Oct 18, '01 09:53:18AM


Are you using OS X 10.1...?

If you head over to the XonX forum at Sourceforge, you might find a relevant thread:

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=148024&forum_id=57137

It appears that IOKit has changed from 10.0.x to 10.1, and an incompatibility has been introduced which causes certain builds of XDarwin to fail...

Bye!

Adrian



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