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Enable iTunes4 sharing through a firewall
Authored by: scotty321 on Apr 29, '03 11:55:59AM

The big irony here is that Apple is actually ENCOURAGING the stealing of
music, by not allowing us to share our legally-purchased AAC songs from
their Music Store. We can't share them via TiVo, we can't share them via
Rendezvous nor over the Internet, we can't share them with any other
MP3 player (besides the iPod, which supports AAC files).

Apple is (on one hand) touting the advantages of sharing your music
over Rendezvous and over the Internet, and (on the other hand) wants
you to buy music from their Music Store.

But you CAN'T buy music from their music store and then share or
stream it.

This whole fiasco doesn't really encourage or support the idea of users
buying these protected AAC files through the Apple Music Store.

As you buy more & more legitimate music, you'll be able to share them
less & less -- even though sharing through streaming for personal use is
perfectly legal.



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Enable iTunes4 sharing through a firewall
Authored by: w0nt0n on Apr 29, '03 02:48:09PM

Its not stealing because iTune's only streams your music, like
Shoutcast, so you dont actually download the song but stream it.

Although thats not to say you cannot rip it. There is a program
called Audio Hijack that, as the name suggests, hijacks any
audio signal sent out to your computers speakers or line out.

The thing I would like to see next for iTunes 4, hint hint to any
third party developers, is a system where by I could launch a
small app to announce my ip address and a small genre
description of the music I want to stream. This could be done in
the form of a tracker system similar to Hotline or KDX. Basically
this would allow us to publish ourselves on a public iTunes
network. This would allow others to easily find and browse my
music collection without having to be personally invited first.



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Enable iTunes4 sharing through a firewall
Authored by: w0nt0n on Apr 29, '03 02:51:10PM

Sorry I misread your comment. I totally agree with what you
said.



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Enable iTunes4 sharing through a firewall
Authored by: JohnnyMnemonic on Apr 29, '03 09:33:06PM

I agree--I'm disappointed at this omission. Now, to stay legal, I
have a difficult choice: buy, and be immediately gratified,
through the Online Music Store; or purchase a CD and rip via
MP3, and then share it out to anyone I want.

However, I've seen it noted (but not tried) that you can share
purchased songs to other computers that have been
"authorized". Although that's really small consolation.

Really strange. I was ok with only being able to stream because
it stood to reason that the client computer shouldn't have a
persistent version w/o their own purchase--but these AAC files
are actually more limited than what a real CD could do.

Even if you could only share on your own subnet ie in your
immediate vicinity, I would be okay with that, vs being able to
share to the Internet at large.



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Enable iTunes4 sharing through a firewall
Authored by: shemp9999 on Apr 30, '03 12:01:25AM

you can buy a song or a cd or whatnot, burn that to a cd (in
audio cd format - i have not tried other formats) and then rip
the cd as AAC or MP3, and the files will no longer be protected
(select "kind" in the view options).

works for me. i can share protected songs with up to 3
registered computers (home desktop, home laptop and work
machine), and if i mix,burn,rip, i can share them with anyone.



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Advanced/Convert Selection to MP3
Authored by: ptwithy on Apr 30, '03 08:23:59AM

What does this command do? Does it 'defang' you AAC?



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Enable iTunes4 sharing through a firewall: Crush the Metadata, share the files.
Authored by: digitalone on Apr 30, '03 03:31:27AM

I'm sure that Apple knew we would get around this, so don't
spread it around ;). Converting it to another format that does
not support metadata in the same way will usually do one of 2
things to it: encapsulated it (aka defanging it) or strip it
entirely. It depends on the format, but I know that .WAV does
NOT support this data, it has no loss, and it will strip the
metadata off as well. Others may just defang it, so it is
recoverable or will make a nonfunctional track. You won't need
to burn it, just import it using iTunes import function switched to
.WAV, if it lets you. Of course there are tons of other converters
out there, I'm sure everyone has a favorite. From there, if you
want to take advantage of AAC, just re-import it using iTunes. I
haven't tried the re-import step, so let me know if there are any
surprises.

Happy sharing ladies and gentlemen.



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