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Configuring a headless Xserve with more than two drives
Authored by: bluehz on Apr 17, '03 10:42:27AM
I called Apple and they offered little help to configure it headless, since they don't support CLI tools.

What's up with that!!!!

They give us this UNIX based system and then tell us they don't support CLI tools.... hahahahahah..... are they part of the Federal Govt now??? Sounds like it....



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No kidding...
Authored by: Numbski on Apr 17, '03 11:39:14AM

I had a client this morning that had a problem with apache not starting after the 10.2.5 update to his XServe. apachectl configtest returned a good config, and running apachectl start claims to start, but it didn't.

I call support and they stopped just short of saying that if I did anything from the terminal, that they wouldn't support it. :(

Oh, and the guy on the phone argued me until he was blue in the face that the GUI *never ever EVER* edit /etc/httpd/httpd_macosxserver.conf.

Yeah, right. So where ARE all those sites being added anyway? Grr....



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Uhhh...
Authored by: daveschroeder on Apr 21, '03 10:41:12AM
1. Know what you're doing - in the context of OS X Server - when you use the terminal. Just because you do something a certain way on Linux doesn't make it so on OS X/OS X Server. So if you don't know what you're doing, don't be surprised if you break something.

2. Apple *will* support the command line, if you really need them to...but it requires a premium support agreement with Apple:

http://www.apple.com/ support/products/macosxserver_sw_supt.html

3. Where do you put all those sites?

a. Use the Server Settings GUI, like you're supposed to. You can have as many custom sites/virtual hosts as you want.

b. Use the Apache 'include' architecture to include directives you need instead of editing http_macosxserver.conf. This is all documented and has been discussed elsewhere numerous times.

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Uhhh...
Authored by: ber on Apr 22, '03 12:27:46AM

I have AppleCare Premium Service and Support on my Xserve.

When I initially tried to install the machine headless and had
problems using out of the box instructions APS&S told me I had
to attach a monitor and keyboard (which I didn't have.) I asked
if we could debug it using the command line (the machine was
working well enough that one could ssh into it) they said they do
not support the command line interface.

brian redman



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As I said...
Authored by: daveschroeder on Apr 23, '03 10:14:52AM
You need a specific support option for command line support, which I linked in my original message. It clearly states, among other things:

Darwin layer and open source system component support
  • Use of UNIX command-line tools

  • Just because the Xserve has a certain capability doesn't imply it should be supported out of the box with the standard support options (including Premier support for Xserve). The fact that it CAN do these things is welcomed by many people, and Apple shouldn't be chastised when people don't have the support options and/or capability to figure it out on their own.

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