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Authored by: pbx on Mar 12, '03 02:01:08AM

What's astounding is that Camino (formerly Chimera) <b>doesn't</b> do this. It's one of the only "real" Mac apps I've ever used that doesn't.



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Authored by: greed on Mar 12, '03 03:29:07PM

What's even weirder is that this is [also] ancient standard behaviour on X Windows, and Mozilla on Linux doesn't do it either. Yet good ol' xterm or rxvt work as expected.

Mozilla/Chimera/Camino do WEIRD THINGS to the user interface.



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Authored by: revargent on Apr 18, '03 12:38:33PM

The reason that Camino doesn't do this is because it's not a
"real" MacOS X program. The user interface in Mozilla and
Mozilla-derived browsers is implemented using style sheets and
javascript and themes. What you see in Camino isn't a MacOS X
application, it's a MacOS X "theme" for Mozilla.

I agree with jwz's comments about the desirability of "themable"
applications. If you want to "theme" your user interface, do it at
the user-interface level, like Kaleidoscope on the old Mac OS
did.

[insert rant about the stupidity of the 'metal' look, and a devout
wish that Jobs be granted an infusion of user-interface humility]



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