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X11 not quite ready for primetime?
Authored by: notmatt on Jan 07, '03 03:50:08PM

Installed without a problem, but I'm having trouble using X apps over an ssh connection, which Orosborosx and XDarwin have never had trouble with.

Other issues:
* Apparently doesn't always obey window positioning: gimp windows open on top of each other.
* Always opens an xterm. I can't figure out why, and I can't find how to stop it.
* the xterm doesn't seem to parse .login (though this may be the *correct* behaviour - Unix arcana sometimes confounds me)
* absolutely no help file that I could find.

In case anyone has any bright ideas, this is the error I get when I try to use remote X applications:
Xlib: connection to "localhost:17.0" refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key

On the plus side, it DOES appear to do things faster than XDarwin.



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X11 not quite ready for primetime?
Authored by: terceiro on Jan 07, '03 04:18:10PM

I think you can kill the xterm and have it auto launch other apps in the "Applications" menu. Without help, I'm just guessing. And I don't want to kill it just yet, but give that a try.



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X11 not quite ready for primetime?
Authored by: etrepum on Jan 07, '03 04:34:58PM

the xterm behavior is built-in to the window server, and the launch arguments for the window server are built into the binary for X11.app.

How's that for prime time? :P



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X11 not quite ready for primetime?
Authored by: nguthrie on Jan 07, '03 04:43:19PM

Maybe I'm an idiot, but how do you launch X11? I've installed it but it is not obvious where the application lives. Since the installer didn't give me an option, I assumed it would be in my applications folder. Anybody?



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X11 not quite ready for primetime?
Authored by: da5idonimac on Jan 07, '03 06:06:47PM

i did indeed find it in my applications-folder, all the way down.



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X11 not quite ready for primetime?
Authored by: jg on Jan 07, '03 07:43:21PM

Did you have XDarwin installed before? If not, the Apple X11 installation must have added a generic xinitrc. Navigate to "/etc/X11/xinit" and edit xinitrc with your prefered editor (vi, emacs, pico) to delete any startup items from there. You should see something like "exec xterm &" or "xterm &" (no quotes).

If you ever installed an X Server before, then you might have a personal xinitrc on your home folder. It is a hidden file, I mean, it starts with a dot, and is called .xinitrc.

Regarding help files, all the X manpages should have been installed, but might not be on your man path. Try the command man X, but if it does not work, and if you use a sensible shell (zsh, bash), at the command prompt type export MANPATH=$MANPATH:/usr/X11R6/man. In case you use the tcsh or csh then the command is: setenv MANPATH ${MANPATH}':/usr/X11R6/man'.



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