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Authored by: jiclark on Dec 16, '02 11:47:17AM

I just wish iTunes was more intuitive about all naming conventions, though I don\'t know how it could work. Why can\'t \'Dave Matthews Band\' be listed under Matthews instead of Dave? Anyone else find this obnoxious, or figured out a way around the problem?

Thx,
John-o



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Authored by: Dephex Twin on Dec 16, '02 12:18:50PM

Seems like Dave Matthew's Band would be sorted under "D" in most music stores as well... but regardless of that, I don't see how you could expect the artists that are first + last name to be automatically sorted anyway. The app would have to somehow know if it was a person's first and last name, and not just any two words, or something that looks like a name, but is really just the group name (like, Luscious Jackson or Marcie Playground or Mr. T Experience), or something that is a person's name but doesn't look like it (Mazzy Star, Jello Biafra). Taking out a leading "the" is simple and is common practice.



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Authored by: chabig on Dec 16, '02 01:01:15PM

I believe the ID3 spec contains a tag for sorting. So you could have Dave Mathews displayed as the artist, but you could make the sorting tag say "Mathews Dave." All we need is for iTunes to support this.

Chris



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Authored by: stefb on Dec 16, '02 01:02:34PM
There is provision in the ID3 standard (the tagging mecanism for mp3, used by iTunes and others to store info in the mp3 files) to add a sort order for album, performer and song.

For this to work, iTunes should support these tags (and allow you to edit them), and they also should be supported by CDDB.

mp3rage (http://www.chaoticsoftware.com) supports some of them, I suppose.

From the id3.org website:

TSOA
The 'Album sort order' frame defines a string which should be used
instead of the album name (TALB) for sorting purposes. E.g. an album
named "A Soundtrack" might preferably be sorted as "Soundtrack".

TSOP
The 'Performer sort order' frame defines a string which should be
used instead of the performer (TPE2) for sorting purposes.

TSOT
The 'Title sort order' frame defines a string which should be used
instead of the title (TIT2) for sorting purposes.


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