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Script it to all happen locally
Authored by: maggard on Nov 07, '02 05:04:42PM
But getting sued for compiling a little mac/apache icon set -- Come On!

Let me introduce you with a little something we all call… Reality.

  1. Guidelines for Using Apple Trademarks and Copyrights
  2. I'm Furious at Apple
  3. Apple padlocks UI decor
  4. Apple wants to squish themes project
  5. Whither themes in an open source world?

Next time before you make a what is apparently intended as declarative statement, particularly a derogatory or dismissive one, you would do well to familiarize yourself at least minimally with the topic…

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Script it to all happen locally
Authored by: dr_turgeon on Nov 08, '02 02:57:08AM
Chill, no offense intended. Please make your script! I'm just saying I'm not at all inclined to fear a legal desist letter when customizing my system, or making these tweaks freely available.
I'm aware of these links you compiled. Notice that in no way have people stopped customizing their systems. Look at, please and enjoy :) [watch for an apache icon set there soon]

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Script it to all happen locally
Authored by: maggard on Nov 08, '02 10:28:01AM
While no offense may have been intended it was still offensive. Also wrong. And still wrong.

Apple can and does go after folks who infringe on their trade dress. Coming up with your own theme isn't the issue, using theirs is. They are quite aggressive about this, indeed from a legal and fiduciary responsibility standpoint they pretty much need to be.

While your intention may be to distribute the icons for use on Macs running Apache Apple's law form may just see it as distributing Apple's graphics. The next day the file's host will get a lovely form letter indicating the material in question, a request to remove immediately, and a threat of expensive legal action and fines if they don't comply, immediately.

This isn't far-out or paranoid; it has happened and continues to happen regularly. Those references I posted are all quite explicit about what has happened when other folks, equally well meaning, often just as trivial, have attempted to use Apple's materials in new and creative ways. Apple has no problem with original stuff, just with their stuff.

I'm not an oracle, I don't work for Apple or their law firm, but the law, and Apple's application of it, are pretty clear. Frankly I think a script to create the files locally is safest and most robust way to go (heck just script exactly what you're doing manually) but you and whomever hosts your material are welcome to test out posting the icons. I however do strongly suggest that whatever you don't post the Apple logo in any of that as it is clearly the most sensitive piece.

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