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Disable Autosave and Enable "Save As..."
Authored by: kikjou on Jun 18, '12 11:49:40AM

As mentioned before, Mountain Lion will have a system-wide setting to revert to the old paradigm. But it is an all or nothing, which is typical for Apple. I absolutely like this new behavior though, particularly for text-based documents. It required a little redo of my workflow. But once I figured out that I could always go back to where I wanted, it works very well. It also feels more natural now that I have un-learned two decades of conditioning. This said, photos and large files don't do well with auto-save and I am glad that you can turn it off in some applications (e.g. GraphicConverter).

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Disable Autosave and Enable "Save As..."
Authored by: barryjaylevine on Jun 18, '12 01:57:02PM

If Mountain Lion will let me revert back to the old behavior (Save & Save as instead of that dreadful Autosave), I'm buying. Autosave forces me to do twice the work to -not- save something that I know is only temporary.

I can argue all day about how wrong-headed I think Lion's Autosave behavior is but is it really so difficult to add "Simple Finder" to OSX and have it include Autosave? Then it can be turned off when required. Of course, the Mac owner won't remember his/her password anyway.

Two things in this world aren't overrated: MacOSX and Lemon Meringue Pie.

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Disable Autosave and Enable "Save As..."
Authored by: sss67 on Jul 10, '12 02:22:19AM


I made some tests with Mountain Lion and here is what I noticed.

- The "system wide" option only asks if you want to save or not when you close a document. There are many scenarios where this feature is totally useless. E.g., you open an image with Preview, you modify it, you capy and paste it in your document. For some reason Preview crashes but you do not notice it. Your image was saved and overwritten. So Versions is still active. The question is: "what happens if I am working on a volume that does not support version?" Is the change permanent? Can I retrieve my original image?

- The Save As menu item comes back if you press the Option key while showing the File menu. That's good.

- The ApplePersistence parameter is very useful because it totally disable the autosave and versions crap. The problem is that I cannot get the Save As menu item anymore, unless I re-enable Autosave and Versions.

Did anybody make additional tests.

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Disable Autosave and Enable "Save As..."
Authored by: DavidRavenMoon on Jul 30, '12 08:24:06AM

I've never had an issue with Autosave on Lion. In fact I find it's quite handy with Text Edit. I often make a new documents and never save them. They persistent across restarts. When I'm done with it, I can save it or not.

With documents that were already saved it asks to unlock the file, or copy it. If I wanted to save the original, I'd make a copy and work on that. Once you get used to not having to hit command-S every now and then, it's quite liberating. I think we can all think of an incident where after many minutes of writing something we lost all our time and effort to some calamity. Once I got used to the fact that that would never happen I again, I quite liked AutoSave. I wish Photoshop supported it. It's also very easy to get older versions of files.

I don't use Pages, so I don't know if it gets annoying with that, but I like the way it works with Text Edit.

I think this is more about people not wanting to change how they work.

iMac 2.93 GHz Core 2 Duo, 8GB, 1TB, Mac OS X 10.8

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