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Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3
Authored by: babbage on Oct 21, '10 10:56:38AM

They also aren't distributing Adobe Flash anymore, but nothing stops you from installing your own copy anyway -- which is a good idea to begin with, as running an outdated copy of Flash with known security issues is a really bad idea.

My hunch is that Apple is just moving in the direction of only distributing major software that they control, and letting you get other stuff from third parties.

The last Macs to ship with non-Apple software in /Applications predated the Intel transition -- they used to come with handy stuff like Comic Life, OmniGraffle, OmniOutliner, etc. Around the time of the Intel switch, all of that third-party applications went away, so from that point of view, it isn't particularly surprising that they're now doing the same with third-party runtimes as well.

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Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3
Authored by: fuzzy76 on Oct 22, '10 12:31:41AM

That is because Flash is made by Adobe. The Java runtime for OS X is made by Apple. So there is nowhere to download it from. Sun never did a runtime for Macs.

My guess is that Steve does this to force Oracle to make an OS X port of Java.

When it comes to comiclife and the other crapware, I have had it preinstalled on all my OS X Tiger Macs, long after the Intel transition.



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Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3
Authored by: babbage on Oct 28, '10 09:05:31AM

*shrug*

On the PC side, I loathe the stuff that comes prebundled with most computers, and wasn't *that* sad to see it go on the Apple side.

That said though, the things Apple chose to distribute were actually pretty damned good -- all of Omni's applications are extremely clever, useful tools, and Comic Life is a lot of fun to use. (I actually kind of wished that Apple had bought it out & made it part of iLife or even iPhoto, but that obviously never happened.)

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