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10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
On your Mac HD, Read: Library/Documentation/License --------> C. Leopard Upgrade Licenses. If you have purchased an Upgrade for Mac OS X Leopard license, then subject to the terms and conditions of this License, you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer as long as that computer has a properly licensed copy of Mac OS X Leopard already installed on it. If you have purchased a Family Pack Upgrade for Mac OS X Leopard license, then subject to the terms and conditions of this License, you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-branded computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household (as defined above), are used by persons who occupy that same household, and each such computer has a properly licensed copy of Mac OS X Leopard already installed on it.
10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
Tony, according to Apple license they were supposed to release an upgrade version of the OS and a full version of the OS. Nowhere on the box that you buy from Apple does it say upgrade. If you buy 10.6 online, your bill of sale says "Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard".
Why would any reasonable person think that that version is the upgrade as opposed to simply a single user license or a family pack license? It does not say upgrade anywhere. As far as I am concerned Apple never sold an upgrade version and they are selling the Single User license for $29 and the Family Pack for $49. There is no upgrade version because they don't sell anything called that. They are only selling the full Single User License and Family Pack license and there is no restriction regarding previous OS version on those. If Apple sold an upgrade version and called it that then you might have a point, but Apple does not sell that product.
This is the relevant portion of the clause of the license for the product Apple sells:
A. Single Use License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, unless you have purchased a Family Pack or Upgrade license for the Apple Software, you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at a time.See I have not purchased an upgrade, so the Single User License is relevant, not the Upgrade clause and there is no restriction there. and B. Family Pack License. If you have purchased a Family Pack license, then subject to the terms and conditions of this License, you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-branded computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household and used by persons who occupy that same household.Again, no Upgrade version is being sold. Nowhere on the box does it say upgrade, the website says I am buying plain old 10.6. The section that you cite is in the License but they refer to products that were never released so no one with 10.4 is breaking the license since everyone is buying the full version.
10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
Its very clear on Apple's Website (and it's not a 'suggestion' either) -- If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set. (and the SLA is also clear on this point).
10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
The website says the Box Set is the "best way" to upgrade for Tiger users. Sounds like a suggestion to me. Best way does not mean only way or only allowable way. What it needs to say is this is the Upgrade version and there needs to be another version that is the full version - and that needs to be clear. In fact the Box Set also says its an upgrade.
10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
>NO WHERE am I told I just bought an upgrade and not a full version
Like OS X Server...
The day Apple implements WGA-style licensing and activation a la Microsoft is the day many of their customers will switch to Ubuntu.
Like OS X Server...
I agree, hopefully only a small % of sales are lost from these 'hints'. What makes it worse is when major publications condone the practice (Goatberg from the WSJ said "But here's a tip: Apple concedes that the $29 Snow Leopard upgrade will work properly on these Tiger-equipped Macs, so you can save the extra $140." Unbelievable.
10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
Yes, that is the point. It effectively only applies to versions sold from Apple, online because that is the only place where one gets any indication that there is any intent to sell a product that has no markings that it is an upgrade as an upgrade. And even then the notification is insufficient.
10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
>Yes, that is the point. It effectively only applies to versions sold from Apple, online because that is the only place where one gets any indication that there is any intent to sell a product that has no markings that it is an upgrade as an upgrade. And even then the notification is insufficient.
10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
Yes my slow friend but the problem is not with the terms of the SLA, it is that in the real world the product you think is described in the terms does not exist. Despite what Apple may say in one area of their website, there is no upgrade version in the real world. Everyone buying the $29 version of the product is buying the single user version of the product, according to the box, according to the function of the contents of the box. They have no reason to think that a clause referring to upgrade has anything to do with them. The section you cite refers to an upgrade version that does not exist. The only term that is relevant is the one without the requirement of 10.5.
10.6: Snow Leopard DVD is full OS X install disc
"Yes my slow friend..."Junkie, this is a good line if you're trying to piss someone off, but not such a good line if you're trying to make a reasonable argument. Which are you aiming to do? Regardless, we are not discussing here what someone might (in all innocence) think or do if they happen to buy the dvd on a whim. We are discussing whether a thoughtful, informed person can ethically follow the instructions given in this hint. It's one thing if something installs the OS ignorantly, sure; but you can't reasonably use an 'ignorance' argument when we're talking about following instructions that start with the phrase "Despite Apple's suggestion on the Snow Leopard specs page...". At that point everybody *knows* it's not what Apple wants, and the only question left is whether one should do it anyway. |
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