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streaming video locally - VLC vs iTunes
Authored by: zahadum on Jan 23, '09 11:33:48AM

@drfrough:

the format compatibility issue is not a limitation of itunes itself but rather of QuickTime.

you can play a wide variety of (drm-free) video if you install the appropriate plugins for quicktime: the two biggies (both free!) are Flip4Mac for microsoft codecs & Perian for almost every other codec available.

(vlc can playback mpeg2, including the css drm used by DVD; whereas apple requires that you pay extra for the mpeg2 codec, on account of it being a member of the intellectual property pool that cross-licences mpeg2. This hidden tax does not apply to mpeg4/h264, which are not encumbered by the same IPR regime as the legacy mpeg2 format is).

so, the confusing issue here us not what formats itunes can play back (the QuickTime plugins should handle most formats); the genuine compatibility issue is how iTunes & iPod inter-relate. There is a special marker (which is known quicktime as an 'atom') that signifies whether a movie meets all the specs for an apple media device - ie iPod/iPhone/appletv.

it is this extra piece if information that explains why a movie can play in iTunes on a computer (which is the largest of all if apple's media players) yet can not play back on these other devices.

with that distinction in mind, then yes, iTunes is a simpler tool for streaming video than vlc because no special menu command is required - ie streaming is not a special case for iTunes, it is a standard/invusible feature ... with only two exceptions.

first, iTunes is restricted from streaming locally (apple disabled Internet streaming, though there are work-arounds available). vlc does not have this limitation.

second, iTunes (QuickTime really) requires a special paid plugin from apple in order to playback mpeg2 used for DVD's (which is why the apple DVD player is a stand-alone from the rest if the apple media architecture - it also incorporated the drm to manage css). vlc does not have this limitation: it can playback mpeg2/css files from anywhere to anywhere.

result: iTunes is easier to use most of the time; however vlc is always useful to fill the breach when itunes/QuickTime fail to do the job (not to mention that vlc has a simple playlist manager whereas quicktime player does not).


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streaming video locally - VLC vs iTunes
Authored by: frgough on Jan 24, '09 11:22:06AM

LOL. That was a very long-winded way of basically saying: If iTunes understands your video, it's easier to stream over it.

Let's say the unspoken here.

With VLC, I can stream my pirated videos I downloaded over bittorrent easier.



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streaming video locally - VLC vs iTunes
Authored by: zahadum on Jan 24, '09 09:06:14PM

@frgough:

1) man, what a short-winded way of saying that a) you are a loser b) wasting everyone's time, c) (still) don't know what you are talking about!

2) no, the streaming issue has NOTHING to do with iTunes: format compatibility is governed only by QuickTime ... how much simpler do you need it? - d'uh!

3) the reason for a fullsome explanation was to help undo the damage done by your technically ill-informed mistatement, so that noobs would not led astray by your ridicuculous & misleading over-simplifications.

so why don't you just shut up & stop complaining when other people have to clean up the mess you make ...

you hint-tard! (with apologies to FSJ)





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streaming video locally - VLC vs iTunes
Authored by: zahadum on Jan 24, '09 09:11:14PM

@frgough:

... and of course by "loser" I simply mean "pirate" ....

I, um, naturally I was not making any comment about you, er, personally.

... but u still r a hint-tard :-)

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streaming video locally - VLC vs iTunes
Authored by: frgough on Jan 26, '09 07:38:31AM

LOL.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.



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