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New poll: What do you think of iCloud for document storage?
With the advent of document storage on iCloud, Mac users are facing a new way of managing documents. As some hints here have shown, people still want "normal" access to their files in the Finder.

Using iCloud for document storage can be confusing. Personally, I want to be able to access files I've created or edited with one app in a different app, and iCloud prevents that. But what do you all think?

Vote in the latest poll, and feel free to leave comments about iCloud either here or on the poll page. Love it? Hate it? In between? Let us know.
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New poll: What do you think of iCloud for document storage?
Authored by: Storm608 on Aug 14, '12 08:51:42AM

I hate it! I don't trust the security or lack of when it comes to cloud computing. Apple has gone to great lengths to allow me to secure my data through whole-disk encryption and AES security of my iPhone and iPod but I don't trust any system where I'm not in complete control.

I use iCloud for Photo Stream and Find my iPhone but that's about it.



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Authored by: iGav on Aug 14, '12 09:02:22AM

People are missing the point with iCloud storage of files.

It is best to think of iCloud as a means to share files between your mac and your iOS hardware - it is a completely different solution to dropbox or iDisk - it is a secure, safe means of sharing documents by the software they live within.



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Authored by: joshsmith01 on Aug 17, '12 10:43:27PM

I disagree with you.

The point of iCloud is to make available all of your documents, everywhere. That's what is touted from Apple at least.

I believe that Apple wants it to be a Dropbox killer but it has failed. I don't think that people want to give Apple another shot at a half-baked cloud option.



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Authored by: Jwink3101 on Aug 14, '12 10:32:22AM

I understand Apple is trying to move away from the file-system type interface but that doesn't work here. For example, lets say I am working on a big project with text documents/notes, spreadsheets, presentations, audio recordings, etc. I would keep them all in one folder since they are all related. However, there is only a weak notion of folders in iCloud and, since the documents are tied to the program, there is no way to interconnect the folders between applications.

I know I am geekier than the average user, but do they really find the file system that confusing? And if they do, this is still a pretty poor way to move away from it.



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Authored by: frgough on Aug 14, '12 12:54:26PM

No kidding. Back in the day, Apple was the champion of the document-centric approach to computing. Now it's all about the app.



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Authored by: teladoy on Aug 14, '12 11:35:04AM

The problem with me rely on the distrust Mac user (me)(14 years) have of Apple. In the pass they have revert many freebies, why if they do the same with this, beside they losing battles with Google day after day, my Mac's have Google as a fuel they move because they exist and I believe I have a better experience than the Apple user using their own fuel, another thing with Google I have no worries they will turn around and charging me for email. I don't want to hint this but my iPad1 has four original icons from Apple Maps, Setting, YouTube and App Store and does more than others, actually a lot more than others. How do I know I sale them. Well can't live with it or with out it.



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Authored by: frgough on Aug 14, '12 12:28:44PM

Utterly useless for any kind of serious user. Let me know how well iCloud works for you when you're working on a complex Pages file with lots of embedded artwork and a 5 MB file size.

Making iCloud the default storage is asinine.



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Authored by: rbsandkam on Aug 14, '12 01:41:04PM

Here's the thing that occurs to me.

Apple is not going to roll out a service like iCloud without bringing OSX to the table.
For one thing, iCloud goes beyond raw storage.
We all use it to back up our devices, use the Find My device feature, sync our contacts and calendars, etc...

But realistically, Apple is focusing on (and making a ton of money from) iOS devices.
The iCloud document storage model works for iOS devices, where most of the time, you will open a document with the App that created it.
I am not saying that this is always the case on an iOS device;
But, it is the case most of the time, for most iOS users.
The document-centric workflow problems which iCloud presents on OSX are specific to a set of users that are on a platform (OSX) for which iCloud is not the primary target.

Does that make it right? Probably not.
Does it explain why it works the way it does? Most certainly.

Users, for whom this model does not work will use SkyDrive, or Dropbox, or Box, or whatever.
The rest will not even notice or care.

Given this reality, should iCloud be the default OSX save location just because you log in to your iCloud account? Definitely not.
That is something Apple should fix.



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Authored by: daybrother on Aug 14, '12 08:16:31PM

Honestly I don't use it. I think it is a great idea for limited automatic push backup for iOS devices but if I have important data the last thing I want to do with it is hand it to a stranger who promises to keep it safe and handy for me and like kirkmc I HATE jumping through hoops to edit stuff. It seems to really be a marketing ploy to sell a larger strategy that failed when developed by MicroSoft; The end user only leases the technology and really owns nothing and eventually will pay extra for access to their own data.
I do "tech support" for a colleague and he asked me a good question: He didn't want to link his home Mac iTunes to his iphone and iPad through the Cloud because although he buys most movies and music from Apple he also has old homemade DVD rips of a few movies he bought years ago on his Mac. Given modern ideas about copyright enforcement what would keep Apple, in the future, from sifting through all data to make sure only Apple tagged media was retrievable from the Cloud? I didn't have an answer.

When Woz says he sees lots of problems with ownership and access of data in Cloud computing he is right.

Edited on Aug 14, '12 08:43:27PM by daybrother



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Authored by: joshsmith01 on Aug 17, '12 10:50:25PM

In an attempt to fall in love with yet another Apple product I performed a little speed test.

I enabled PhotoStream and Dropbox automatic camera uploads. I opened up iPhoto and a Dropbox Finder window on my iMac. Lo and behold, Dropbox had uploaded and downloaded the picture within moments. PhotoStream took so long I had to recheck my settings to ensure that I had in fact turned it on.

If we started out with iCloud 30 years ago we would all be rejoicing at the new filing system of Nested Folders.



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