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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream Apps
More of an observation than hint but from the Apple site (and Geniuses at the stores), I was expecting to have to move photos taken on my iPhone from Photostream to the permanent library on the iPhone to preserve them after the 30 day limit.

Not so. Both on my iPhone and my iCloud-synced MacBook Air, the photos are both in Photostream and in the Library automatically. Personally, I think this is preferred behavior but does seem to defeat Apple's goal of not having too many pics stored on the iDevices.

[crarko adds: I haven't tried Photostream as part of my general putting-off of the iCloud transfer, but the behavior mentioned here is what I would expect, and would have been pretty annoyed has it been otherwise. You should never be forced to do these things manually.]
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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: lowbatteries on Oct 24, '11 08:35:29AM

If I take a picture on my iPhone, it's in my iPhone's Photo library, period. It's also sent to Photo Stream, and iPhoto downloads all of those photos into it's library.

If you had an iPad also synced with Photo Stream, the pictures WOULD NOT permanently go into the library on the iPad, but stay in the Photo Stream album.



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: histeresis on Oct 24, '11 08:44:10AM

Set by default in either aperture or iPhoto when you turn on Photostream. You can adjust at preferences>photo stream>automatic import.



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: kiltbear on Oct 24, '11 09:31:51AM

When you enable Photo Stream via iPhoto prefs, there is an option to do "Automatic Import" into your Library. It then also keeps Albums by months (Sep 2011 Photo Stream, Oct 2011 Photo Stream, etc.). It seems to pop on by default.

(Now if we could just delete things from the iCloud Photo Stream...)

Edited on Oct 24, '11 09:33:38AM by kiltbear



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: rmanke on Oct 24, '11 10:42:20AM

Is there any way to delete the photos in the iCloud stream?

Sometimes I take a bunch of photos for tests, and they end up being there forever!



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: babaloo on Oct 24, '11 11:17:18AM

Well, not forever.
Either for 30 days or up to 1000 flicks.
Then old pics get auto-deleted from the stream.

And you can't delete individual images. You can only reset Photo Stream and thus delete everything (not the saved pics of course).

As I see it, Apple should change the current behaviour and implement two ways of file deletion in Photo Stream:

1) If a user deletes a picture that picture gets deleted in iCloud and then on all devices
2) Auto-deletion only deletes in iCloud (in Photo Stream)



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: chabig on Oct 24, '11 11:19:07AM

You can't delete from Photostream. They don't stay there forever, though. Photostream only goes back 30 days. After 30 days those photos are gone.

You can reset your Photostream to delete everything and start over. Log in to iCloud and do it from your account settings, I think.



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Skurfer on Oct 24, '11 11:32:15AM

This sounds, nice but then what do you do with the photos in the Camera Roll on the iOS device?

You’re prompted to delete them after a traditional (USB cable) import, but if they’ve already been imported, you don’t get that chance. You either have to import them again (creating duplicates - and I’m not even sure if it would work) or you have to delete every picture you ever take for the rest of your life manually using the iOS device itself.

Am I missing something?

I’ve turned of the automatic import from Photo Stream into iPhoto. I see iCloud as a good way to back up photos from iOS, but (so far) a terrible way to move things from one place to another.



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Unsoluble on Oct 24, '11 11:54:16AM

Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing.

I don't know if I'm just more OCD than the average user, but I need to have my Camera Roll completely empty, unless I just took some shots. Now that Photo Stream is auto-uploading everything for me, I no longer have a means of auto-removing its contents (and yeah, I tried just manually re-importing, but as you said, you just end up with duplicates. Unghhh.)

So for now, I've got Photo Stream disabled again. :(



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Skurfer on Oct 24, '11 12:02:16PM

I keep it enabled, but turn off the automatic importing (which you can do in iPhoto’s preferences).



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Unsoluble on Oct 24, '11 04:24:48PM

Ahh, yeah, that's the ticket. Best config at this point, anyway. Thanks!



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: rbenezra on Oct 24, '11 08:43:51PM

If all Photostream photos on my iPhone have been automatically imported into my iPhoto library on my laptop, when I connect my iPhone via USB to transfer the camera roll, it recognizes that these photos have been imported and asks if I want to delete them from the phone. Don't see what the problem is but maybe I'm missing something.



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Unsoluble on Oct 25, '11 10:16:01AM

If that's how it behaves, then that's awesome. Will definitely see if I can get it to work like that when I get home -- thanks for the tip!



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Unsoluble on Oct 25, '11 08:47:25PM

Hmm. When I connect my phone to iPhoto, it shows the photos and videos on it, split into two sections -- already imported, and not imported. But it doesn't offer to delete anything. How did you get it to do that?



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Skurfer on Nov 07, '11 11:48:07AM
I’ve never seen this, but I wonder if the key is “all Photostream photos”. I have 3 or 4 that have been there since before iOS 5 was released that I don’t care to import to iPhoto.

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10.7: Unanticipated but Un-welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: 8675309 on Oct 25, '11 04:23:46AM

Not to jump on someone else thread here, but...

Has anyone realized that photo stream sends a downsized version of the image that you have captured on your phone? This is patently unacceptable and perfectly useless for my purposes. Anyone know of a checkbox or pref. somewhere that I'm missing?

Thank you!



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10.7: Unanticipated but Un-welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: ScottM on Oct 28, '11 07:42:57AM

Thankfully, this is not the whole story. From Apple's Photo Stream FAQ:

"On your Mac or PC, your photos are downloaded and stored in full resolution. On your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Apple TV, your Photo Stream photos are delivered in a device-optimized resolution that speeds downloads and saves storage space. While actual dimensions will vary, an optimized version of a photo taken by a standard point-and-shoot camera will have a 2048 x 1536 pixel resolution when pushed to your devices."

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4486



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: jaykern215 on Oct 25, '11 05:18:34AM

I don't know why no one is mentioning this: photos are only uploaded to photo stream when you are connected to wifi. It would be a drain on those with data caps if it did all the time. I turn off wifi when I leave my house. Pics taken throughout the day go into camera roll but not photo stream. I delete the pics from camera roll I don't want. Once reconnected to wifi the remaining pics go to photo stream and the rest of my devices. Leaving wifi on - I could be sitting at a light and it would grab a nearby starbucks wifi and start uploading. It's still not a perfect workaround for wanting to delete individual images in photo stream. But it beats turning photo stream on and off.



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Artcny on Oct 25, '11 07:41:53AM

This explains why I immediately used up 170 mb against the 50 mb allowance I paid to AT&T to use my iPhone here in Europe... Photostream has been great for Facebook postings but the phone now is in permanent Airplan Mode until we return to the US... And pay the additional $100 plus for excess data!



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: Unsoluble on Oct 26, '11 08:55:12AM

PhotoStream doesn't do anything at all when you aren't on a WiFi network, so that's not what caused your usage spike.



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10.7: Unanticipated but welcome behavior in Photostream
Authored by: zo219 on May 02, '12 06:48:18PM

And I hope everyone knows by now that — at least on the iPhone 4S, iOS 5.1 - photos both from the camera album and photostream can, yea!, be deleted.

(JB iPad 2, iOS 5.0.1 camera roll, yes, photostream no.)



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