Submit Hint Search The Forums LinksStatsPollsHeadlinesRSS
14,000 hints and counting!

Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug Apps
We have a few older iMacs running 10.4.11. When saving a document, the save button always means save whether or not any folder is selected in the save dialog (sheet).

In 10.6.5 I've noticed this irritating change (bug?). If a folder is selected in the navigation window -- even if it's not the focus, that is, even when the focus is the Save As: field, the Save button (and return) opens that folder. The only way to save to the current folder (shown in the pull down menu) is to deselect the shaded folder.

I'm convinced this is a bug, but a quick workaround is Command+Up Arrow then Commmand+Down Arrow. When you return to the original folder, nothing will be selected, and the Save button works as expected.

[crarko adds: I haven't noticed this behavior; can someone confirm this? And is it unique to 10.6.5?]
    •    
  • Currently 2.75 / 5
  You rated: 4 / 5 (12 votes cast)
 
[6,907 views]  

Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug | 19 comments | Create New Account
Click here to return to the 'Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug' hint
The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
Never seen it.
Authored by: nathanator11 on Dec 29, '10 08:27:16AM

I've never seen this on 10.6.5.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Never seen it.
Authored by: Noach on Dec 29, '10 08:35:31AM

Can't reproduce. I'm running 10.6.5. Can the poster give more specific instructions?

Better yet, can he reproduce it himself on a machine that he hasn't configured. Perhaps there's something that he tweaked that's triggering this.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: catalert on Dec 29, '10 09:14:24AM

I haven't seen that behavior. Does it happen with all your applications or just a particular one?



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: Unsoluble on Dec 29, '10 09:52:49AM

Never seen this, and I've worked on hundreds of 10.6.5 systems.

In which app(s) is this happening?



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: rpaege on Dec 29, '10 10:28:34AM

I just tried this with TextEdit and it works normally, or not as described as a bug.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: simsamsep on Dec 29, '10 11:26:57AM

When the dialog is in list view, clicking the Save button will indeed open a selected folder and the next Save click (or return) will save in that folder. In column view the last selected folder is already open and clicking Save will save the file in that folder.

However, with the dialog in list view, I never see a folder in the dialog being selected by itself. I need to click on a folder to select it. You can first use selecting and clicking the Save button to navigate to the intended folder and then click Save to save the file. I myself usually double-click folders for navigating.

Edited on Dec 29, '10 11:28:39AM by simsamsep



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: jolinwarren on Dec 29, '10 12:35:10PM
I can confirm this bug, and it has been around since at least 10.5. I think those who are saying it doesn't exist don't understand what the bug is. You can reproduce it with the following steps (all in the Save dialogue's list view):

  1. In a Save sheet/dialogue, click (once) on a folder to select it.
  2. Click in the 'Save As:' text entry field and type a name.
  3. Notice the default button at the bottom of the sheet is titled 'Save'. However, hitting return (in the text entry field) or clicking the button just opens the folder that is selected.
You can also replace step (1) with, "In a Save sheet/dialogue, press cmd+up arrow to move to the enclosing folder." When you press cmd+up arrow in a save sheet, the folder you moved up from is automatically 'selected' even though the focus stays on the text entry field. And the same 'open folder instead of saving' bug occurs, which is very frustrating. Note that this is different behaviour than if you move up a folder by using the pop-up menu with the folder's name to navigate. In that case, no folder is selected when you change to the enclosing folder.

I'd never thought of going up again and then down as this hint suggests, and it's very useful as now I can keep my hands on the keyboard!
Edited on Dec 29, '10 12:36:20PM by jolinwarren


[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: mkhaw on Dec 29, '10 05:05:12PM

I'm on 10.6.5. I followed the recipe given. Hitting return (or clicking Save) saved the file into the file dialog's current folder; it did not open the selected folder.

Note: I use Default Folder. Perhaps it does the right thing when the native OS X file dialog wouldn't.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: jolinwarren on Dec 30, '10 02:21:56AM

That's interesting that with Default Folder you don't see this bug. I wonder if that 'fixes' it. I don't have Default Folder or any open/save dialogue modifications.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: renaultssoftware on Dec 30, '10 07:30:16AM

Just did the same in Safari. Absolutely no problem. Probably for *some* apps only.

---
http://groups.google.com/group/applescripters/
http://qgf.in/
http://www.kompilesoft.info/



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: simsamsep on Dec 30, '10 11:00:30AM

When I do a "Save as" in Safari, I still see the problematic behavior. When in list view, instead of saving in the opened folder, a selected folder will open when the Save button is clicked. And moving up in the hierarchy using command-arrow up will select the folder you came from, resulting in again opening the folder you came from when the Save button is clicked instead of saving in the folder that was opened.

I see this in 10.6.5 and it is only a problem with the dialog in list view, not with the dialog in column view.

I do not know if this is a recent change in Snow Leopard. I tried this in 10.4.11 on my PowerBook and there clicking Save will not open a selected folder but will save in the opened folder.

In Mac OS 9, when a folder is selected, the Save button changes to 'Open' and one can open the selected folder by clicking that button. In fact the same behavior in Mac OS X 10.6.5 as in Mac OS 9, only now the button does not change from Save to Open when a folder is selected.

Edited on Dec 30, '10 11:03:47AM by simsamsep



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: apta on Jan 04, '11 03:01:46PM

The problem doesn't appear in 10.5.8 with Safari 4.0.5 nor Mail.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: nathanator11 on Dec 29, '10 05:15:36PM

I wonder if this has something to do with keyboard access to all controls? I have that enabled.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: DylanMuir on Dec 29, '10 10:53:20PM

I have just checked, and the bug occurs whether or not "tab access to all controls" is selected in the keyboard preference pane, and whether or not "enable access for assistive devices" is selected in the accessibility preference pane.

DRM



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: AndrewSwift on Dec 30, '10 02:41:20AM

1. I can confirm that tab access to all controls does not modify this behavior on 10.6.5, restarting included.

2. It is definitely annoying, especially when I have been working in one folder then need to save a file in the parent folder (so this tip is useful, but it's too bad that it's necessary).

3. The behavior SHOULD be that cmd-S saves in the current folder and cmd-O opens a folder. It is counterintuitive that cmd-S would open a folder. Or that pressing return on a save button would open a folder. It's just wrong.

4. Can someone confirm that this behavior was present on older systems? It seems like a recent problem -- I've only become aware of it in the past few weeks.

5. Can someone confirm that this behavior is not present on their 10.6.5 system? If so there must be a preference that controls it.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: simsamsep on Dec 30, '10 04:43:07AM

I suppose that people who experience this problem use the Save dialog in list view, while those who do not see the problem use the dialog in column view.

The problem (bug) is only manifest when the Save dialog is used in list view. In column view there is no problem because the selected folder is also the opened folder and clicking Save will save in that folder.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: Unsoluble on Dec 31, '10 01:32:02AM
Ahhh, that's what the problem is. Yeah, I can confirm this looks like a bug in (at least) 10.6.5. Won't see it if your save dialog is in column view (I don't think I've ever not had it in column view, ever... weird). Switch to list view, select a folder, then click back in the naming field -- the folder selection goes grey (it's in the background now, so shouldn't be activated by hitting Save), but hitting Save now opens that folder instead of saving. Yech!

[ Reply to This | # ]
Yes, very annoying
Authored by: germ on Jan 03, '11 05:07:31PM

I run into this all the time.



[ Reply to This | # ]
Quick fix for Save/Open folder bug
Authored by: ragmaxone on Jan 06, '11 07:02:31AM

was able to reproduce it but it's not really a bug ... if a folder is selected, it means you to save the file in it. In that case, pressing enter just open the selected folder and then you can repress enter to save it, exactly where you wanted to.

This behavior seems logical to me, even practical.



[ Reply to This | # ]