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The QuoteFix plugin for Mail.app formats your email reply for bottom posting. It puts the original message on top of your reply and sets the cursor between the original message and your signature. Mail's default action in to place the reply text at the top of the message.

QuoteFix can be downloaded from here.

Following the description from the developer's site: QuoteFix is a plug-in for Mail.app which fixes some issues with replying to email.
  • it removes the signature from the original message
  • it removes certain unnecessary empty lines
  • it positions the cursor below the original message, instead of above it (in other words, bottom-posting instead of top-posting)
  • it can (optionally) prune nested quotes from a specific level and above
QuoteFix should be Snow Leopard (10.6) compatible from revision 25 onwards, and 10.6.1 from revision 27 onwards. From revision 28 onwards, you can also run it in 64-bit mode.

Installing the plug-in:

Before installing the plug-in, you'll need to make sure that Mail.app's plug-in support is turned on. For this, execute the following two commands in Terminal.app:
defaults write com.apple.mail EnableBundles -bool true
defaults write com.apple.mail BundleCompatibilityVersion 3
Next, download the plug-in (pick the binary version) and unpack it in ~/Library/Mail/Bundles/. [crarko adds: You may need to create this folder.] Note: the binary builds are for specific Mac OS X versions, the Snow Leopard builds work only on SL, etc.

Lastly, quit Mail.app if it's running, and start it up again.

In case you run into any problems, just remove QuoteFix.mailbundle from the Bundles folder above and restart Mail.app.

[crarko adds: I tested this, and it more or less works as described. It is very sensitive to the version of Mail that you have.]
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Mail.app plugin for bottom posting of reply text
Authored by: Nem on Aug 25, '10 08:37:10AM

Thank you, thank you! I've been looking for something to do this for years now and had not heard of QuoteFix. Works great!

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Nem W. Schlecht
http://geekmuse.net/



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Mail.app plugin for bottom posting of reply text
Authored by: timnevels on Aug 25, '10 09:54:34AM

Version 30 of the plugin does not work with Mail 4.3 in Mac OS X 10.6.4.

After following the instructions, when starting mail you get the following message:

Incompatible Plug-ins Disabled

Mail has disabled the following plug-ins:

QuoteFix

Contact the makers of these plug-ins for versions that are compatible with Mail 4.3 and Message 4.3.

Mail then moves the plugin to the "Bundles (Disabled) folder. Anyone have ideas how to make this work?



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Mail.app plugin for bottom posting of reply text
Authored by: crarko on Aug 25, '10 10:02:17AM

It looks like you can file a bug report here:

http://code.google.com/p/quotefixformac/issues/list

I got it to load OK in Mail 4.3 in 10.6.4, but it does seem to have an issue with insertion point placement.



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Authored by: PatrickS on Aug 25, '10 10:17:47AM

Works for me :-)

- did you pick the right version from the download section (I got "2010061601")?
- did you set the default values in Terminal.app?



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Authored by: timnevels on Aug 25, '10 10:49:25AM

Thanks for the idea PatrickS. I check the plugin version and found it was "30" and not "2010061601". I found that version and installed it. It is working now. :-)



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Mail.app plugin for bottom posting of reply text
Authored by: soundsgoodtome on Aug 25, '10 01:48:44PM

while I firmly believe in options and prefs for all users' needs, I don't understand the desire for this feature. it drives me nuts when new replies are below the quoted text, forcing me to have to scroll down to look for the new content. it's inefficient and inconsiderate on the part of the sender.

the exception is replies that are interspersed online among comments. but below the entire previous post? HATE it.

have fun! lol.



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Authored by: crarko on Aug 25, '10 02:55:16PM

Then we won't make you use it. :)

Actually, it's not my preferred choice either, although it ranks firmly ahead of any form of HTML formatted mail in my book.



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Authored by: soundsgoodtome on Aug 25, '10 05:59:58PM

thank you. lol.



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Authored by: everkleer80 on Aug 26, '10 10:01:32AM

I'd also like to say that I don't understand why people do this. Often times when I get an email that has all of my text quoted at the top, I just delete it because my first thought is always that the user must've accidentally hit send without typing anything. Then (thank god for 'trash' folders) I realize that their reply might have been below the original text and I go back and dig it out of the trash.

I'm not saying this hint isn't helpful for those who want it, I'm just adding my two cents.



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Authored by: TvE on Aug 27, '10 11:55:26PM

Then read this and you'll end up being more efficient:http://www.river.com/users/share/etiquette/



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Authored by: mkhaw on Aug 25, '10 06:31:50PM

What if

defaults read com.apple.mail BundleCompatibilityVersion
reports 4 instead of 3? That's what I get on my Snow Leopard 10.6.4 machine with Mail.app 4.3 (1081).

I installed QuoteFix (2010061601) without altering the BundleCompatibilityVersion number from 4. It has no effect on positioning the cursor in replies with quoted text; nor does the QuoteFix bundle get moved into Bundles (disabled).

Edited on Aug 25, '10 06:33:48PM by mkhaw


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Authored by: AS40 on Aug 27, '10 03:39:17PM

Thank you so much for this hint. Now all we need to do is convince 1.3 billion people who have learned bad email habits that top posting is a Bad Thing.

Here are just one person's arguments (with which I am in total agreement):
"Top Posting and Bottom Posting"
http://idallen.com/topposting.html

Oh, and for those of you who say 1.3 billion people can't all be wrong... yes, they can.



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